Blood DK doing as much healing as me, am I doing something wrong?

Selenabromez-stormscale · February 25, 2020, 4:13pm

Hey there everyone, I recently returned to WoW about 5 days ago, I decided to go healer and got invited to a mythic +5 and then +8, both times I had a DK tank, and A LOT has changed since I came back (I quit at the release Defense of Dazar’Alor raid.

Things such as - Essences for your heart of azeroth, no idea what thats about or if I’ve got good essences etc. but I’m not sure if I’m missing something else out, because I feel weak. This on-top of the fact that here’s the recount meter for healing overall of the +8 I just did.

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I would like to know if my HPS is low please, if there’s something new that I don’t know about that isn’t just told to you in a quest line maybe?

And on Sylvannas’ Azeroth a Tank is able to do as much healing as a healer class…

Is this right?

Because I seem to struggle healing, we did this +8 with about 10 minutes to spare and about 6 deaths, but I just feel like playing a restor druid, people can stand there and wait for me to top them up after a pull, but it takes some time to even do that, my healing feels so low…

Feel free to also give me feedback on my characters armory, I’m mainly looking for if there’s something BIG that’s effecting my healing, not just little things like “Need gear upgrades”

Much thanks for any info!

Vunde-argent-dawn · February 25, 2020, 4:15pm

In numbers, easily. But they can’t heal the group.

Shammoz-terokkar · February 25, 2020, 4:15pm

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They heal a lot, but the heals are only on their self, so group would still need a healer.

Selenabromez-stormscale · February 25, 2020, 4:16pm

Ahh so I’m not just losing my mind that “I’m just utterly terrible”? x)

Vunde-argent-dawn · February 25, 2020, 4:19pm

Nah, it’s been that way on and off, though I don’t think dks ever had an off.

You’re not out of a job just ye-

Nevermind, you’re a priest xDD (j/k ofc)

Jesi-frostwhisper · February 25, 2020, 4:19pm

Yeah… Because its Tank. They dont have bonus armor. Its Blood playstyle to have big hp pool that jumps up and down while you try to survive.

Furyeclipser-kazzak · February 25, 2020, 4:21pm

Bdk doesn’t have shield ,therefore lack of shield is compensated with self healing .All non shielder tanks heal alot .

Grovi-silvermoon · February 25, 2020, 4:21pm

Alright bois, everyone go dk!

Selenabromez-stormscale · February 25, 2020, 4:22pm

Ahh okay, I wasn’t bashing the class I was just trying to work out if I’m doing something seriously wrong

Druchi-wildhammer · February 25, 2020, 4:43pm

Nah, go havoc, even more healing, more dps, better defensives, better mobility. And if all else fails you can run away and jump onto a roof to hide.

Wow, I think I have some resentment going on here.

Dappysham-shadowsong · February 25, 2020, 4:46pm

DK tanks have always healed a LOT. hence the DK only HC raids ect.

Kimora-aggramar · February 25, 2020, 4:51pm

You shouldn’t have any problems outhealing any tanks in m+. If tanks are outhealing you, you might be having throughput issues/Not playing your class properly. ESPECIALLY this week with things like bursting.

I can’t really give you much advice, because druid is pretty self explanatory. You put hots on people, generally before incoming damage, and it heals people. Usually best done just before mobs die due to Bursting.

anon70585577 · February 25, 2020, 5:03pm

Blood DKs, if they are played well, can outheal even a good healer. This is especially true for resto druids who don’t have great tools to quickly heal a tank up to full, so a blood DK quickly heals himself full before the hots get much healing in.

Damage on the group depends on the dungeon and how well the group plays. You’ll heal much less (and do more damage instead) in good groups than you do in bad groups (where you spend every GCD on healing).

You’re a little undergeared for a +8, so presumably you had a good group if you had 10 minutes left before the timer. Your chest also has feral traits. Throughput gets better with gear. I’d not worry about it, just keep playing!

Kimora-aggramar · February 25, 2020, 5:05pm

I disagree entirely. The only healers I see using this as an excuse is bad ones. Never ever in the decade have I ever experienced being outhealed by tanks, and I play with a God tier tank player.

Not only that, if you’re letting tanks drop that low where they’re outhealing you from their own self healing you might wanna look what you’re actually doing with your activity. Again, this week is beyond no excuse to be being outhealed by even a Blood DK.

I guess not everyone is a good healer, but it doesn’t mean people have to make up excuses saying X tank is OP. You’re being outhealed because you’re not playing your class correctly. It’s quite simple. I can do upwards of 80k HPS from just hotting people before bursting on my druid and I don’t even have the legendary cloak…

anon70585577 · February 25, 2020, 5:10pm

You play with a protection paladin. This topic is about blood DKs. I play frequently with warrior and monk tanks, and they certainly don’t outheal me or any healer. Blood DKs are a different subject because of how they are designed. Again, we’re talking about Blood DKs, not just “tanks”.

Bodybit-argent-dawn · February 25, 2020, 5:15pm

To be honest this week isn one of those where healer experience way more hps cause of bursting.

But in lower keys like 10-15 with other affix if people play correctly there is not much damage going on and the healer can easily push dps.

You don’t need to push 90k hps in keys to be good, that only means people probably played bad and took constant damage.

Kimora-aggramar · February 25, 2020, 5:15pm

Feel free to look through my history of what tanks I have and haven’t played with. This topic is indeed about Blood DKs, and I feel like I’m more than qualified to give my opinion considering I’ve been playing every single healer for the past 10+ years, and have healed many DKs, and ranked up quite a few rank 1 parses of the years through MoP and WoD. Anyways…

Druids are about pre-hotting. If you’re letting a tank drop that low it’s a YOU issue, and even if they do, fully hotted with swiftmend. It’s very easy to judge damage rhythm after playing healers for years, and I’m not saying Blood Dks don’t do self healing. Their entire class mechanic is about self healing, but being outhealed by one in a 5man group with this week’s affixes is ludicrous.

People need to stop blaming their class and realise it’s either a gear issue or a get better issue.

Bodybit-argent-dawn · February 25, 2020, 5:19pm

Dude the OP just came back to the game ofc he is probably experiencing gear/essence issue.

Also HPS is not a good metric to define if someone is good or not at healing.

Kimora-aggramar · February 25, 2020, 5:20pm

And I was stating that it wasn’t because Blood DKs were OP. Said twice in both posts, it’s either a L2P issue or a gear issue.

anon70585577 · February 25, 2020, 5:20pm

I did. All your best runs this season are with the same protection paladin.

A Blood DK tank is always extremely spiky, they drop from full to half dead and then death-strike themselves up. They have the tools for this playstyle. I don’t need to waste a swiftmend on a Blood DK that knows how to play, because it wastes a global (either theirs or mine). I see their CDs and their available rune power in my UI so I know when I need to spend an instant heal on them. It’s not uncommon for a Blood DK to heal for high HPS values over a dungeon, so OP healing less than a Blood DK doesn’t automatically mean that OP is bad at playing resto druid.