Bonus rolls are gone in SL

[Kierkegard-pozzo-delleternità]

Tbh i don’t really mind bonus roll being gone, in general, i don’t mind Blizzard leaving the path of “Lets vomit decent gear on players”.
It trivialized 2 (already easy) raiding difficulties and kinda made gear below the M14/15 meaningless.

[Wushupanda-outland]

@Jojobrow-kilrogg

well i think this is only in the begin , later we will get the extra rolls back i think , there will be many updates in the next 6 months , i hope that the extra rolls only can happen in the premade raids and not in the LFR

why ? LFR is the starting progression, and the players who dont enjoy raiding, do LFR. there is absolutely no reason to diminish it.

[Wushupanda-outland]

@Warferno-dentarg

Great change from blizz! Now we just need master loot back and raiding is soon back to its glory days.

the so called ‘glory days’ exists.
it called “wow classic”, maybe thats the game for you.

[Bjornson-nordrassil]

@Wushupanda-outland

@Warferno-dentarg

Great change from blizz! Now we just need master loot back and raiding is soon back to its glory days.

the so called ‘glory days’ exists.
it called “wow classic”, maybe thats the game for you.

I am trying to play there more, but with every limited availability thing that Retail is throwing at us, I do not have enough time to dedicate on classic.

My mage will soon hit 53 and she will finally get out of the ZF graveyard.

[Wushupanda-outland]

@Bjornson-nordrassil

@Wushupanda-outland

@Warferno-dentarg

Great change from blizz! Now we just need master loot back and raiding is soon back to its glory days.

the so called ‘glory days’ exists.
it called “wow classic”, maybe thats the game for you.

I am trying to play there more, but with every limited availability thing that Retail is throwing at us, I do not have enough time to dedicate on classic

so why push your classic agenda at the retail players who enjoy it as it is.

[Bjornson-nordrassil]

What agenda? Is master loot “classic agenda” now?

[Wushupanda-outland]

LFR complaints, master loot, gear exclusivity and such.

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Sintarius-scarshield-legion

I do think it may be somewhat counterweighted by the new weekly chest offering a choice between 3 items.

I don’t do any of the activities that adds to the chest.
So players like me only get stuff taken away. Awesome…

[Bjornson-nordrassil]

I do not feel particularly strongly one way or another for anything in retail that is not related to cosmetics here.

[Wushupanda-outland]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

@Sintarius-scarshield-legion

I do think it may be somewhat counterweighted by the new weekly chest offering a choice between 3 items.

I don’t do any of the activities that adds to the chest.
So players like me only get stuff taken away. Awesome…

they just dont get it. they ruin the game for others just to twick it a little better for themselves, even though they already have a working system.

[Bjornson-nordrassil]

@Tahra-earthen-ring

@Sintarius-scarshield-legion

I do think it may be somewhat counterweighted by the new weekly chest offering a choice between 3 items.

I don’t do any of the activities that adds to the chest.
So players like me only get stuff taken away. Awesome…

I thought you liked it when Blizzard gave players the shaft?
I might have misunderstood

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

@Bjornson-nordrassil

I thought you liked it when Blizzard gave players the shaft?
I might have misunderstood

Of course I don’t like it.
But if someone ‘gets the shaft’ while you get ‘what you want’, yeah you’re not going to feel bad about it most likely.
Elitists are probably so happy now… Well, they’re not because they ‘can’t be the best at everything’ because of covenants, but hey… we’re all getting the shaft in some part of the game, I suppose.

[Bjornson-nordrassil]

Misery loves company I guess

Each player has different hills they wish to die on. I think most of the symptoms in the recent versions of the game are due to Blizzard wanting too much control over the players and what they can do.

[Warferno-dentarg]

@Wushupanda-outland

the so called ‘glory days’ exists.
it called “wow classic”, maybe thats the game for you.

Or maybe you should go and play diablo if you like to drown in loot much in the same way like BFA?
Less loot in circulation means gear uppgrades will matter more.

[Jojobrow-kilrogg]

@Telestrian-argent-dawn

@Jojobrow-kilrogg

well i think this is only in the begin , later we will get the extra rolls back i think , there will be many updates in the next 6 months , i hope that the extra rolls only can happen in the premade raids and not in the LFR

It’s to slow down raiding progression, so i don’t think it would return until a new raid is released, ie. when raid 2 appear, bonus rolls are allowed for raid 1.
Blizzard want to move away from the model where in a single clear people could be picking up 5 or more items in a single run with bonus rolls (RNG allowing) because even if not everyoone is that lucky, for those who are it means they need maybe 2-3 weeks in the raid and they’re done. Raiding is not intended to be moved on from that quickly, or at least it wasn’t in the past.
Blizzard seem to be going back towards the move into mythic raiding takes time, not being something that happens a month into the raid release. BFA showed us the extreme of this and what happens - first third of patch people are progressing the raid and the last two thirds you start to see a massive amount of boosting for the raids because they have very quickly become trivial for a reasonable amount of the playerbase. Maybe not so much with mythic+ but heroic raiding in BFA generally speaking was not treated as something of import- people would be offering boosts for it fairly quickly, it didn’t represent anything much in particular.
This change won’t stop the boosting, but it’s going to stop it appearing until towards the end of the patch because people aren’t going to be able to gear up so quickly they can offer such services. heroic raiding will in itself mean something again as it will be a necessary step into mythic raiding, and you’ll spend more time there before you move on.

well we can say it will be intresting how this will fold out , cant wait

[Dejarous-draenor (Dejarous)]

Players “Blizzard throws too much loot at us! It’s become meaningless! I remember my first epic back in Classic fondly but got so much loot last week I can’t remember any of it!”

Blizzard “Good point, we’ll make loot drop less so its more valued”

Players “WTF, rabble rabble pitchforks”

Stay classy playerbase.

[Jojobrow-kilrogg]

@Wushupanda-outland

why ? LFR is the starting progression, and the players who dont enjoy raiding, do LFR. there is absolutely no reason to diminish it.

true but the droprate is enough for LFR what Bliz can do is an extra item what you can spend by a vendor in bulk like 10 pcs for a low lvl epic or mount or other stuff , that is much more interesting than a extra roll on a drop

[Wushupanda-outland]

@Jojobrow-kilrogg

@Wushupanda-outland

why ? LFR is the starting progression, and the players who dont enjoy raiding, do LFR. there is absolutely no reason to diminish it.

true but the droprate is enough for LFR what Bliz can do is an extra item what you can spend by a vendor in bulk like 10 pcs for a low lvl epic or mount or other stuff , that is much more interesting than a extra roll on a drop

with this, you are just promoting farming. gear vendors always come with farming. ALOT of farming.

[Elias-drakthul]

Well covenants is direct respond of classic popularity. As entire idea is based out of classic ideologi so… We might see even more of that if covenants will bring in more “classic like audience” into retail game.

[Koradan-argent-dawn (Koradan)]

Well thats gonna make things annoying, while im not botherd about gear itself and agree that bonus roll was often a waste i was happily looking forward to a transmog set (the first time since bfa started) and would have been happy to grind it out once the second raId is out but this along with the chest might make it worse.