im currently making a druid alt and trying to gear it through pvp like i did on my main. and im wondering if anyone else have issues at 1.3k rating with boosters and overgeared players in that bracket. im constantly facing boosters and 215+ players every single game, meanwhile me and my friend are ilvl 200. its just super frustrating to play against as it scuffs my defensive rotation cus the amount of burst/sustain they do is just so much greater then mine. im not a skilled player, im a casual player who plays for fun really, i started playing recently so i do have alot to learn. i dont mind facing better or skilled players. but its hard to face skilled players with 220 gear. so im wondering if anyone else experienced this on their alts?
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yes. the forum it’s like filled with complain like this.
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at the moment is impossible gear up alt with pvp… the game is stucked by a stupid system.
Played against 38k HP ret and his 27k hpal, against me and my 30k disc.
Ret bursts. I trap him, he trinkets. Intimidation, he bubbles. I ROS my healer. He dies.
Nice.
Simply not true. It is annoying yes, but far from impossible.
You can get to full 197 pretty fast to start farming conquest. This is also enough to get 1400 for the first upgrades. After you hit the Conq cap and maybe get 1-2 Vaults you are already easily geared enough to push and upgrade further.
Yeah i dont think its impossible, in general we play 1-2 hours eachday. Should be enough to eventually hit 1.4k and upgrade further. But lower bracket seems pretty scuffed. On my main i dont face boosters at all almost. But 1.2-1.4k seems to be filled with it haha. Ohwell, not much we can do about it. Just get better/play better and win
i dont know about the lowest rating, but at 1900-2100 u will meet people who are about the same as you, and then u will meet duelists/gladiators who either play 2s for fun or just lower their rating for easier caps, you can almost instantly tell if someone is higher rated then the current rating, good players just play insanely different then the fotmers and what not, not to mention the gear advantage…
im already about to give up trying to push 2.1k this season as it feels horrible healing with LFG players that just rerolled warrior/ww/rets, u will win some comps and then meet a really good players that will destroy you and every rogue mage u meet is like 80% loss without comms and near perfect play.
playing some non meta classes in 3`s seem really hard even at 1.6-1.7… at best u struggle hard for each win and at worse u just get clapped by players who do massive dmg and have a paladin healer…
1.4-1.6 is the absolute worst bracket right now. I particular RBGs. Filled with people boosting with 40k+ Hp in some cases.
How you are able to play in that bracket with full 226 I don’t know. It needs addressed.
I think once you hit a gear bracket 1400 / 1800 / 2000 you should be unable to drop below that rating. It should just become your backstop. In turn fix the MMR system so that both CR and MMR are directly linked so you can not purposefully tank your rating in order to boost others up.
I know the simple fix is “standardise gear to one lvl for PvP and allow us to chose stats”
But that won’t happen. So it needs another solution as this Season is absolutely broken unless you pushed past 1800 in the first week Or two.
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That’s what happens in Hearthstone. It works well and I think it would be even better in WoW, like sometimes I just want to help a friends alt cap but I don’t want to risk losing 150 CR.
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The thing is tho isn’t the loss much lower than the potential gains for lower CR?
The max you gain is what - 197cr? If you are very low and the team is higher.
What’s the max a player will lose on an RBG? 20?
24 maximum loss /gain
Tbh with RBG the issue really isn’t the losses. I’m happy to take a 3s 50 CR loss because I know I can get it back in 15 minutes.
50 CR in RBGs is about 6 games , assuming a higher win rate which can take 20 minutes each AND about an hour just to build or find a group.
50 CR in RBG Time invested 4 hours.
50 CR in Arenas - I mean that’s 2 or 3 games which can take anywhere from 2 minutes to 5 minutes each
Why would we sweat hours upon hours in our main bracket at high ratings when we can just do an easy low rated RBG win per day for full Vault rewards?
I love doing low RBGs, it’s a low effort, fast and chill way to cap. I don’t see any reason to even try to push rating there, I actually prefer to keep it low. And I’m not the only one, there are Glad exp groups in LFG only looking for people with low CR.
Also that 197 rating stops at -about 1450.
I thought it stopped at 1600. I offered to boost a friend of mine in RBGs to 1600 we did a few games and he was 1400 only getting about 10-15 cr per win, I said sorry love you bro but I don’t have the time for this. Let’s find a healer and do it in 3v3 instead.
Cap is not even an issue. It’s 550 conquest. You get 300 if the dailies are useful. Honestly it’s not that big of a deal. You can even get 100 conquest a day just by winning a couple of random BGs
Cap for me includes the Vault rewards, which take hours to get to 3/3 by just doing arenas.
Here is a statistic for you. We played 50 games in 2s around 1.6k. Lost 30 matches, gained around 50cr. In those 30 matches we lost, only 6 of them were against fair opponents. By fair, I mean exactly same cr across all brackets, similar ilvl. 17 of them were boosting (multiglads/duelists on other chars and/or in other brackets). The remaining 7 were against rival geared opponents which I can’t say anything, but that makes 10 ilvl difference between challenger and rival, so it’s a pretty huge deal. Well done with your match making system! Gz
Bold of you to assume they have a match making system haha
Oh I don’t even bother with that anymore, 90% of the time you get items you already own.
Honestly for your own sanity, don’t bother haha
what the point honestly of “trinket trap” if he has HPAL to dispel, and the point of trapping ret at least? You have freeedom / exp. trap / bursting shot / scatter shot - it’s more than enough to kick him out and run around the pillar, you both can also dispel the freedom (if he’s playing w/o non dispeled freedom)
i know here is OFFtop, but for me this example was pretty strange.
By any chance do you play resto druid?
If so i would recommend you the tank legendary - the natural orders will , for 2v2 arena it really helps against the burst , you just need to be on your toes about pre bear goes on you and you will be able to heal when stunned or cc in other ways.
I know you will not see the legendary anywhere as bis for pvp but you can easily deal with any dmg they throw at you and you really just need to worry about your partner
Im only at 1,4K rating right now with a win rate around 60% but i have only played with people from LFG.
I think it would also work great for feral with a great healer as you really would not be a easy kill target and could maybe take the game to deeper dampening and set up kills this way