I’m not sure if it will help your morale at all, but a lot of boost buyers aren’t first time fyrakk killers. For example my guild farms it every week, but sometimes I and friends have alts who we just cba trying to get fyrakk done with a pug full of people who’re trying to do it legitimately and progress with randoms and people joining and leaving all the time. Once in a while if we get sick of trying to find a decent group, and having lots of disposable gold, it’s sometimes just worth to either buy a boost for the extra chance of the trinket that toon wants or vault slot and have it done in a short amount of time.
So while a lot, there may be substantially less “got achievement because boost” than we like to imagine
You know that many people on this tiny forum admitted buying it and also advocating for it for achievement and mount. And that’s only people who admitted to it, there are more people reading it, who killed it just for mount/achievement.
So you want other players who see you with a particular mount to view you as having completed the raid in the same way.
I dont really think about it this way. I dont really care what other people think when they see a mount or transmog. As far as i am concerned i know what i did to get that mount and that is enough for me.
In a way just looking at each other like “high five”, don’t pressure this into some weird place please. You won’t pressure me into saying I need appreciating from others, I don’t need that.
If you still didn’t got it - I don’t need to kill fyrakk HC, but I would consider if achievement meant something. So basically, one of the game features is not appealing, because blizzard ruined game with boosts. Get it? If not, then okay.
Im not trying to pressure you into anything. Like i said, its fine whatever way. But the title of your thread expresses the belief that killing a heroic boss is something that you care less about because of the way other people do it.
By extension this assigns a value to the achievement based on another persons perception that is lessened depending on how other people reached the same goal.
I get that perspective. I think it’s been ages that that genuinely existed, partly because of boosting becoming more widespread, but also because of server communities meaning less and less over time.
I was thinking on your Camino de Compostela analogy. In a way that’s true, you both did it. And yet you both walked a different road, because you’re different people, with different motivations, perhaps of different ages, different vitality etc. In the end everyone’s path is their own, and their exact achievement too. Just the fact you both did it means something, but not everything.
Yeah, why some people care so much that they buy boost
You could make this analogy for people who killed Fyrakk, since we all had different groups, etc. But simply buying it and afking is not any experience.
TBF most of the guys in boosts are players that already killed the boss and just want to skip the trouble on their alts (me included).
Generally the boss was puggable week 2, so anyone that wants it as an “achievement” can easily achieve that with 1-2 weeks of gearing and pugging (considering you start at zero).
Don’t think most people view the mount as an “achievement”, although some collectors might want it for their collection. Mainly because the difficulty is so low that it does not offer much of a challenge.
From my experience in the past, the last boss in hc is still harder than the first few bosses in mythic.
And while its not hard for good players, we have to keep in mind how bad the average player is and that killing the endboss in HC is one of the highlights in their game time.
Imagine you progress for months in HC getting the kill and than some dude swipes his card and buys the kill. Must feel horrible.
It’s bonus. Most of the HC last bosses doable by high percentage of community. Mythic last bosses are hard but yes I agree with you about boosting. If you look at services trade channel, there are tons of people selling boost of HCs, Mythic Pluses etc. But if a person can buy last 2 bosses for just 160k, they just buy it instead of joining a HC guild or trying to find LFR groups. Even some LFR group leaders are boosting 1-3 people with LFR groups. It means boss is not hard and people are geared a lot to boost. If this is the case which it’s, it certainly kills the desire of killing Fyrakk HC and it’s not healthy for a RPG game such as WoW.
Not really, no. But then, I never struggled getting Curve, it is one of those things you get done very early in the season cycle.
Still, I can see where you are coming from. But, you are kinda complaining (to give you a m+ related example) that people make your +10 reward look too diminished. When everyone and their grandmother is doing +20s.
That is why I dont feel the appeal gets hurt by someone that bought the boost. As they would’ve gotten it anyhow. They simply got it a bit earlier on their way to boost their ilvl (and get curve to get into curve only groups easier).