Boosts is going to ruin TBC classic

Saying you need to do “the Nexus” and also stating that someone else didn’t play tbc :clown_face::clown_face:

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Yes I agree, that is the core reasons.
However, we were clear on keeping Classic “authentic”. People were afraid that blizzard would try to make classic more appealing to casual players.
Store services are just not authentic imo.

Nope, still no idea what you’re getting at.

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That’s hilarious coming from someone that that doesn’t understand the concept of Supply & Demand, has issues with understanding simple principles concerning services and in general dismiss valid arguments 'cos it doesn’t fit his own narrative.

But whatever, when you one day open a business I suppose you’re in for a rude awakening.

you know when someone lost the argument, when they start talking like you. I gave you so many examples, you eather dont get them or just not read them. You just cant stick to the point or talk about the problem itself. But yeah, i told you that before and sometimes its just fine to say that we disagree.

Guess who iam: “You are right with all the stuff but I dont say anything about it, instead i make up a topic that is “mildly” related and try to make a point out of that, even tho it does not serve any purpose.”
its fine to be wrong, or not understanding everything. No reason to be upset about that. Just suck it up and own it.

Thank you for worrying about that, but iam fine :slight_smile:

Yes i understand buuut
mentality of playerbase changed so you can’t have authentic classic experience anymore therefore not having boost is bad design by nature
because many people don’t care about lvling anymore
there are people like lvling in tbc but that is not a big number :smiley:
between now and TBC is 10+ years
I was different person 10 years ago hell i was different person 1 year ago :smiley:

Have you played on any of these servers then? If so, you’ll know that:

  • Not all servers were fast rate (Medivh was a very popular server), and still managed to maintain healthy populations, due to the excitement of TBC and fresh servers in general
  • Many of the servers had fully-functional sub-TBC content

You sound like a dude who is just transferring over his BIS Classic toons, having had no exposure to TBC since 2008, and now demands that the release be done in such a way so as to appease him.

Ye this might have changed. Bet it’s few. The fact that it maintained a healthy pop only speaks to my argument xD. How is that supposed to prove your point?

Might be true nowadays. Still doesn’t speak to your argument.

Getting into the weeds of this isn’t helping you prove that the people who would only play tbc if they can boost are actually going to stay for more then 2 months.

Your points are non sequitur. ‘‘Medivh was a 1x server that was very popular and many servers have fully functional sub tbc content therefor a great many tbc players won’t play tbcc unless they can boost and these players are going to stick around for more than 2 months’’.
You’re a big boy. I shouldn’t have to explain to you why this isn’t logically sound.

Insinuation was that TBC players want a quick fix, and aren’t prepared to play on low rate servers; that isn’t the case. Point of contention is whether or not there should be fresh TBC servers: if one argues no (I can’t fathom why), then the boost needs to remain as it is so that TBC players can start on an equal footing.

I’ve stated a few times, on different threads, that I wouldn’t mind starting afresh, on a fresh TBC server. Having TBC players join pre-existing Classic servers, where a vast majority of people are rocking multiple 60s and good gear, is a kick to the teeth in the eyes of many, I’d wager - that is why I support having a boost in light of the fact that there is currently no news on Fresh TBC servers.

yeah, that would actually be very welcome to know.

How?

Tbc not being #fresh has already ruined the economy.

Wrong. Id say 99% of people have the overwhelming majority of /played at level cap.

It already is. Just stand in Scarlet monastery and see.

Also most likely wrong. Leveling us just a barrier something most people just need to overcome before they can do what they want.

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This is why I gave up even trying to be reasonable with most of the pro-boosters, with a couple of honourable exceptions.

That was a hard one, but even I can see now that there is no hope of having a meaningfull debate. You are longer here than i am ;), so iam still learning.

Retail mentality right there.

I feel sick

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Alright, we can talk about fresh tbcc servers. While i’m sympathetic to fresh tbcc, i’m pretty thorn. The clear pros you laid out are very tempting for me aswell. I love having everyone start from the same playing field and all that. phase 1 of classic was my fav for that reason. There are some serious cons of fresh tho.

  1. It’s going to further divide the player base.

  2. due to better horde racials, most people will probably roll horde like they do on p-servers so these servers will be something like 70-30% favoring horde which is terrible for pvp servers.

So yea, i don’t know if i think they should do fresh or not.
But what i do know, is that the boost is a very poor substitute. Gold and Naxx gear(and Thunderfury and other very strong pieces of gear) is the real advantage current classic players have. a 58 boost won’t change that. It won’t even come close to change that while doing so much damage in other aspects i would argue.

The boost is a poor substitute - I agree with you - but the fact remains that, without fresh OR a boost, a great, great many TBC players would be deterred from trying in the first place.

You don’t have to like that, or agree with the reasoning behind the players’ refusal to partake without any of the aforementioned criteria being met; doesn’t negate from it being a reality, and Blizzard are aware of that.

I doubt that very much. If you aren’t willing to level on a existing server then i don’t see how a fresh server would change that. Agree to disagree.

Feels like blizzard are slowly adding all retail features into the classic series because of how the shadowlands numbers have dropped, this take on TBC is going to be so scuffed

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Sure bud. They can remove the boost if they deny access into arena for every person who isn’t a gladiator, as well. After all, if you don’t have the skill to reach gladiator, then arena wasn’t meant for you in the first place.

And lets not get started about raiding, oh boy.

Person who values their time mentality right there*. If someone does not enjoy leveling through old, outdated content, why should they be forced to do so when everyone else is already participating in the new content? TBCC =/= vanilla classic. Minor changes to the old content aside, TBC is very much just Outland and whatever it brings.

If you folks are worried about botting and such, fine. But stop acting like leveling through vanilla is important for TBC. You can be against something for valid reasons without supporting the invalid reasons as well.

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Most of the 3k bots are already 60:))