for the mother of gods, bring back omg ,
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for the mother of gods, bring back omg ,
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For the mother of gods, stop it already.
There is no RDF, and it has been already stated several times that there wonât be any RDF anytime during this expansion.
IF there is a RDF at any time, (and I sincerely hope there wont be), it will presumably be included by the time it was available on the original WotLK, that is in the Icecrown content update.
So please, chill, enjoy the game, and forget about RDF already.
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For completely arbitrary reasons, yes.
Why donât you? Who are you to tell people that they canât voice their concerns that a major part of the game they signed up to play is missing?
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#NoChanges
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They are far from arbitrary. You might not like them, of course, but that doesnât make those reasons invalid. In fact, for me and most if not all of my environment, thay are not only perfectly valid, but also a praiseworthy change.
Itâs not a âmissingâ feature, as it was clearly stated from day zero that RDF wont be part of THIS game. So if you signed up to play this game, you already knew what you were up to.
And concerns had been voiced over, and over, and over, and over again. They were heard. And thankfully, studied, and rejected. Repeating that again and again wonât make any good, neither to you, nor to the community as a whole.
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Okay, letâs make a thought experiment.
Imagine if they had launched Classic and said âworld buffs will be removed in raidsâ.
Do you think, perhaps, thatâd have caused an uproar? And would that uproar be right or wrong?
Fine, post the data of said voices. Post the polls this decision is based on. Anything.
Iâm willing to put gold on your only argument on this topic being âblizzard said so so itâs soâ, which is a ridiculous argument for saying people canât voice their concerns on forums.
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You canât give âsocial aspectâ as a reason when
- it has never been proven rdf negatively impacts our social experience
- itâs 2022 not 2008, we donât socialize like we did 14 years ago, 9 groups out of 10 can be summarized with âhi, lets go, gg, byeâ
- at the same time theyâre selling lvl 70 boosts which in classic they said theyâll never do because they, and i quote, âdid not want to break any heartsâ.
So yea their reasoning for no rdf is arbitrary.
Iâd give it another term but then iâd be banned again for a month.
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Im quite sure 1 of 2 thinsg will happen
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RDF gets added - this is by by far the most sensible thing to do.
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they make so many changes to the current lame duck LFG system that it ends up almost the same as RDF but without the cross realm and teleport (the 2 things most folks agree is all that needed changing)
however given how many bugs there are in the game itâll take a while.
meanwhile if you really care about social interactions then ask why they didnt add guild finder and communities systems - 2 things which would actually promote making friends and therefore create meaningful social experiences.
excluding RDF was pandering to outdated ideas and bandwagons of what caused this and that.
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I donât know what will happen around this in the long term, (I donât think anybody does at this time, even at Blizzard), but I surely hope neither those two become the final outcome.
But in particular, Iâm pretty sure about 2 not going forward, as the cross-realmness and the teleport were in fact the pillar features of the RDF. There is no RDF without those, it cannot be:
Queue times cannot be assured to be reasonable without cross-realmness on most servers, and auto-teleport is a technical limitation needed for making the experience of joining people from different realms in a same place seamless, so there is no point on it.
A RDF without those features is doomed to fail hard from start, even more so than not adding it at all, or even than adding it in its original Wrath incarnation.
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You realize the automation feature of RDF is what people really want so they can avoid having to spam a bloody chat for hours on end right?
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But that automation needs a technical implementation behind, that needs to be solid and guarantee results in a timely fashion. And, as I stated above, that implementation cannot guarantee solid results anyhow without cross-realmness.
Also, people wanting that are, in my humble opinion, lazy morons. If you do it right, there is no way it takes more than a few minutes for getting a group going for any dungeon you might need, even if that means having to form it by yourself. At least for top level dungeons.
Exception for this MAYBE is on very low population servers, or lower level dungeons, which are the only use cases that might remotely justify the RDF existance. But then the take here is clear. Blizzard have to properly manage server population, no excuses, as RDF was just a cheap bandaid for neglected servers, and maybe make a specific RDF just for leveling dungeons once most of the server population have already reached the endgame.
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Blizzard should also add random raid finder, because those elitists require 6k gs from me to do Naxx gg wp blizz :clownemoji: Why it isnât here? I pay sub to play raids, not to wait for someone to invite me and then flying 2 days to the raid entrance gg kekw trash garbage bb
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The LFG tool is actually very nice. Getting groups is piss easy.
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Completely agree.
The new LFG tool is pretty cool. And proof of that is that the tool itself is almost a carbon copy of the Retail one, which has been used and tested for years as the Mythic dungeon meeting point very successfully (Mythics which, remember, are completely unaccesible from the RDF and have become the staple dungeon experience of Retail).
Those whining about it clearly havenât even tried to use or understand it, or are just trying to draw attention and justify again the RDF absence debate.
If only we played in like, the 8.x client that already has the implementation in it.
Oh wait, we do.
Good thing I donât give a flying flip what you think of anything then.
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Here is my 100% honest reason for wanting RDF:
I love MMOs but Iâm not an overly social person.
I grew up with severe social anxiety and MMOs was the only place I felt I could open up and talk to strangers but only when I was really pushing myself.
Sometimes I get anti-social and just wanna get in a dungeon with some people, clear through and not have to say a word about anything unless itâs tactics
Other times I want to chat lots, make friends and manually form groups
I like having the choice depending on my mood
I love classic much more than retail, but depending on my mood, I often switch on retail just for random dungeon finder when I would rather be doing the same on classic if it was there.
I am also highly aware I am not the target demographic for classic so design choices are not based around my own personal wants and likes
If itâs added, I will be happy and immediately uninstall retail
If itâs not added, I will get over it and keep using retail when I want to just be anti-social but still do dungeons
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I believe you do not realize what you are saying. Blizzard also said that they wont release old versions of the game, because players will not like it. It has been proven again and again that Blizzard is actually clueless when it comes to knowing what players want. If it was best to just accept what Blizzard thinks is right, we wouldnt even be playing WoW Classic to begin with.
The other âargumentâ, that it was released later in the expansion and if included, it should be later as well, can be used for nearly every other feature. But since the classic versions of the game use the last patch of the game feature wise, it doesnt make sense. If it was a legit argument, the argument would be just as valid against dual specialization, mount mechanics or class design as a whole. Non of those were as they are right now at the beginning of wotlk. Therefore using the argument against one specific feature, but not addressing all the other ones, makes the argument implausible.
It has been voiced by the vanilla community when classic wow was announced. It was also stated that there would be no flying mounts. Of course we have those now. Why? Because they were a defining part of tbc. RDF is a defining part of wotlk. When they first talked about classic wow, they talked about vanilla specifically. Therefore quoting something about vanilla is completely unrelated to any RDF discussion. And of course no flying mounts and no RDF would made sense back then, since they were not part of vanilla. At that point it wasnt even clear they will do any classic expansions. It makes zero sense quoting/referring to something specifically about vanilla and use it as an argument for later expansions.
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and RDF was a feature (ok late) of Wrath of the Lich King.
just becuase you feel an RDF without cross realm and teleport would be doomed doesnt mean youâre right.
imo it would work just fine and also imo you just have a stick somewhere and wont let it go
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And you desperately wanting it doesnât mean Iâm wrong ÂŻ \ _ (ă) _ /ÂŻ
Itâs simply a numbers issue. If there is not enough people in one single lone server to guarantee the formation of random groups for dungeons in a timely fashion, the tool will fail.
Even with cross-realmness the original RDF was sometime a tedious experience (unless you were tank or heal), so any common sense and logic dictates that restricting it to a single server (ie. to lower population numbers) will only increase the waiting times
Itâs not âan oppinionâ, or a âfeelâ. Itâs just logic.
Also, Iâm not the one with a âstick somewhereâ⌠Iâm immensely enjoying the Wrath prepatch âas isâ, and will surely enjoy the xPack alike, so Iâm really fine. There is nothing a should âlet it goâ⌠Thanks 
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