Buff AQ40 and Naxx hard to make the game enjoyable

Yes i’ve been playing on private servers for years and yes all the bosses on those servers were buffed in order to keep up the competition for more than 2 months per phase.

As it’s been 15 years since 2005 the original database i cannot remember the correct health values in order to compare them with the classic jokes. Because classic hp and armor values are a joke gentlemen.

Nefarian trash should be able to one shot leather and they go down faster than a prostitute on saturday night. Zul gurub bat boss should have a fire aoe at 20%…correct? I am asking calmly.

Make the aq40 a hard raid, buff the hp of huhuran, increase the arcane damage of Skeram, buff the hp of cthun because people need to revive the failure of wiping the same way they enjoyed 30 minutes bwl free epics.

If your plan is to follow the same timeline, releasing naxx JUST 3-4 months before TBC you will get THE SAME failure and the SAME crying that took place back in 2006.

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Well they already said it’s not and that it was a mistake to release TBC so close to the release of Naxx.

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You realize that would negate the entire point of classic servers? This is not a progression server! Classic is a chance to experience (or re-experience) the very first chapter in a great MMO.

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Please do me a favour and don’t confuse your personal opinion with what the majority wants.
And to finish your sentence:
Yes Classic is a chance to experience the very first chapter in a great MMO, which was extremly hard.
Further more people dont play classic only for nostalgia but because they like this game’s mechanics and style way more than they do in retail. So nope it’s not a short journey.

Everything seems easier because everybody can min max now, having preraid bis, raid bis lists on silver plate, tons of clips on youtube with each boss strategy, this wasn’t the case back then, and thats why it looks like its easier.

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Yes that is correct. That is why they need to buff the content. To give this a little push. It’s been tested for years on private projects and it works.
Do not underestimate private projects they are the reason we playing classic wow right now.

Ι too played on every single major Vanilla project incl Nostalrius and my guildies did too.

The buffed content in PS was ridiculous. Flasks, pots and full world buffs were mandatory.

If the OP is a masochist, he can go beg Whitekidney for a server and enjoy their masochism. I just don’t see why I and my guildies have to suffer and do all the crap we did on PS just b/c the OP enjoys sadomasochism.

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if you want a challenge mythic raiding then is what you should do, but i bet 5000€ that you will find the usual excuses you classic “proes” like to use

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Nope. Just accept that the playerbase got better and they have every right to show it off. I’m in no rush for tbc to come out most of us have other things to do in life other than play wow. Competitive players that want content buffed are in the minority.

Classic was not “extremely hard”.
It was as it is today (and even prior to patch 1.12.1): easy as f.uck. The only thing that was, in fact, hard was bringing players with clue how the game works.

If you want some real challenge then you are free to play retail with bosses with more than 1 mechanic.

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Isn’t AQ and Naxx go be pretty authentic when the content catch up to the classic patch?

He said and proceeds to make a post entirely on bold :wink:

Isn’t it better to discuss those things for next cycle instead? Just see what happens now, and then start discussing improvement for future fresh.

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If you want harder content, then play mythic raiding on retail?
Classic raids were always easy, players just weren’t as good and didn’t have 15 years of private servers to practice/min max everything.

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Good, then go back there. /thread

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nono, things are actually nerfed compared to how they were in earlier patches.

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There is an easy solution to that. Just tell your whole raid to only raid in grey items. Should make things a little harder… if you’re really out there to get “a little push”. Or is that too much to ask for?

Thats so damn true. I remember back in 2005 before I started playing, watching my sisters boyfriend play the game on his Paladin, I had no damn clue what I’m doing. He entered MC with his guild, let me press a few buttons and eventually, I managed to heal a few boss fights while not fing up and dying. It was a cake walk even back then, if you had decent gear. I remember the biggest problems they had were people lagging, DCs, people not showing up for the raids etc.

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Do you have any relevant data on how many players want your , harder classic , ? Or is just , i think that majority players … ,
Looks like YOUR personal opinion. Maybe your GUILD opinion.

We are experiencing it, maybe not exactly like it was, but deffinitely not like Pservers with their , harder content ,. And vanilla was not hard, it is your delision from private servers.

I always chuckle when people thinks that vanilla was hard. No it was not, we were just clueless, but that is hard pill to swallow. :smiley:

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Vanilla WAS super easy. I remember back in the day I had NO CLUE what to do, what itemization was, I only vaguely understood that SP is better than int because Class leader told me he read it on some forum (lol what a tryhard). Hit? What for? My spells only resist sometimes, not miss like weapons!
Even so we farmed MC and ZG and AQ 20 later with no effort whatsoever, farmed BWL with very few wipes and got to Huhuran in AQ (and would have gotten further but nobody wanted to farm NR since TBC was coming in a few weeks). We even did some attempts on Anub’Rekhan and came pretty close to killing him. (I was still in mix of ZG mage set and T2, both laughable item choices looking back now) But again, nobody cared anymore.
No, the Vanilla may have been hard in first few patches (I wouldn’t know, I was goofing around to lvl 47 on a hunter with a bear with untrained abilities, then levelled human mage on first rp-pvp realm while literally rp walking everywhere most of the time.
But when I started raiding around the War effort time, everything pre-AQ was already a joke.
So Classic is pretty accurate recreation, all things considered.

Unfortunately our private server overlords decided that, since we now must know what to wear etc., bosses must be tuned so that what you managed (or almost managed) in your goofy ZG/T2 gear back then should now be downright lethal unless you wear proper BiS gear + a healthy dose of wbuffs and consumables.

Fortunately, Blizz doesn’t give a damn about them.

It should be, AQ was released in 1.9 and Classic is based on 1.12, there is only three major patches difference between both, compared with Molten Core that was released on 1.1 or 1.2. Naxxramax itself is from 1.12 so in this case Classic should be almost 100% authentic