[Bug] AV/WSG Ring/Trinket

Spell Penetration Ring & Trinket are missing.

Yes they where released in Patch 1.9 however the high-end honor gear was released later and the recipe for 28 slot soul bag found in MC also first came later and its materials can first be found in Phase 4…

Many other things from Phase 5 are already present and if the issue was spell penetration then how come mage equipment was released in its later stage rather than early release when it did not have spell pen and talent tree also has spell pen thus it really cannot be spell penetration that is the cause.

I cannot see this as anything except failure or idiocy from the management behind phases.

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It’s because there is spell penetration on them, which was first introduced on gear in 1.9.

The only piece in the game that it’s currently on is the rank 13 mage shoulders as far as I’m aware.

Wrong… if that was true then they would have used the early release model of the mage equipment and they would have taken all talents back to an earlier phase if spell pen was such a terrible thing…

You should return to retail or learn to read instead of responding after only reading the title… sigh… /facepalm

Actually, you’re wrong. The only piece of gear in game right now with spell pen is the rank 13 mage shoulders, which only has spell pen because blizzard has stated that they want every piece of gear to be in its final state in order to not punish people who don’t know that certain items will get updated at a certain point in time down the line.

Let me repeat myself as you seem incapable of reading…

  1. Gear that came in Phase 5 & Phase 6 even recipes requiring materials from Phase 4 have already been released in Phase 1.

  2. Spell Penetration has no effect on balance whatsoever and its a mechanic that does not have any bugs, warlocks can reduce spell resist by 75, mages have default talent for it and spell pen on gear thus the notion that it has anything to do with spell pen is beyond idiocy…

  3. You do not even play Classic but instead retail as ur avatar displays so stop trolling around on the classic forums you troll…

I’m aware, but that doesn’t have any relevance.

Not relevant, spell pen wasn’t added on gear until 1.9, which is blizzards reasoning for not releasing that gear now, rather than later.

I actually have around 50 days /played in classic, so you’re wrong again.

So if they where to release Naxx first and AQ afterwards it would not have relevance… stop trolling around you almost make me think theres something wrong with ur ability to think at this point…

Trolling is lame so just stop it.

Then explain why there is gear with it which they released ahead of time which was first closer to Phase 5…

If that was true you would not be using your retail acc as avatar…

Good strawman my dude. Just because you disagree with something/someone doesn’t mean they’re trolling.

I did. They wanted to release gear in its final state as to not punish people who wouldn’t be aware that some gear will be getting its stats changed at a later date.

Why not?

[quote=“Narcind-ragnaros, post:8, topic:112858”]
Good strawman my dude. Just because you disagree with something/someone doesn’t mean they’re trolling.[/quote]
Your only argument thus far was that it has no relevance and you didnt even attempt to reason it…

This is about swapping Phase 3 & Phase 5-6 stuff so of course it has relevand…

Becourse if you did play classic and not just here to troll u would be able to display this and not just say it… any idiot can walk into a place and say they have been there forever but truth is a different matter and relies upon facts.

Wrong… watch blizzcon, now read through all the comments they gave about it…

eitherway get lost or get classic but dont comment on things from a different game

It doesn’t have anything to do with the discussion regarding the AV ring/WSG trinket so how is it relevant?

Happy?

Would you be able to provide sources/links to what part of blizzcon/what comments you’re referring to please?

It has everything to do with the discussion… if you cannot even say why something doesnt matter then why would you even reply in the post ? this only proves you are here to troll.

Tell me why exactly should i do something you yourself could do using google if you had the intention of wanting to know ? you ask this as nothing but a trollist time waste.

Use Google…

How? The items that have been added prematurely are some MC items, likely for more complete loot tables since t2 (except legs) isn’t dropping in MC, a few quest items like luffa, and the level 60 rank 7-10 set.

Items like turban and pearl necklace aren’t in because they were added later. Items like ban’thok sash exist because they were in the original loot tables, but later had its stats updated, and again, blizzard wanted to release items in their final iterations to not punish players who wouldn’t be aware of certain items being updated later on. This is likely why the level 60 rank 7-10 gear is in too, since even though it’s a different set than the level 58 version, it’s basically just an updated version of the same gear.

Items like the AV ring and WSG trinket weren’t added until 1.9 though, so just like turban and pearl necklace, that weren’t added until 1.10, they will be added in phase 5.

Providing sources for your claims is pretty common practice, you might learn about this when you’re old enough to be in high school.

Core Felcoth Bag
This is one drops in MC however the materials required first drop in Phase 4.

Many other things drop as well but there is indeed a very odd to the point without logic in what drops and what does not, they have allowed items from P5 to drop in MC but few from P3 do not…

Then provide a source for your claim that it has no relevance…
If they tinker around with phases swapping from P5 to P3 and P6 to P2… it has as much relevance as anything possibly could in classic as it means it becomes less classic and more a mixture of classic and retail.

Things are so bad you can find things intended for later in the game but only half of what is needed can drop…

Now this is a good forum war to read!

Everything that will ever drop in MC has been dropping from day one. Not sure what you think is supposed to be dropping, but isn’t.

Contrary to someone who mainly plays retail i actually did the research and know a lot of the items should have first released in P4, P5 & P6 within MC similar to how they prevent drops in UBRS and other dungeons until P5.

They could with dungeons so why not the raid ? face it classic is a mess at the moment due to poor management and you undermining bugs is part of the cause.

Face it youre a troll and you only complain right now as you got nothing better to do than undermine actual bugs… you should be ashamed but similar to certain people you lack that ability. No different than trump if he was poor.

Lol…dude…u loose, give it up, your opponent is clearly someone who knows what he’s talking about, you are NOT.

I don’t play retail.

Nope. Some items like choker of the fire lord, onslaught girdle or mana igniting cord got added in 1.4-1.5, aka p2-3. Bindings were added in 1.6, so p3. The only item added later is the core hound bag.

You’re the one complaining about something that isn’t a bug (an item that shouldn’t be in, not being in), not me.

Then why are r14 caster weapons in game?

Why are the commedation NPC’s in-game ? they are meant only for the early phase of P5.

Why are the NPC’s on the isle for ZG in-game ? they where added in P4