Building in Azeroth: A First Look at Housing

It was correct to the context she posted. The 50 plots housing is designated to some location that will continue stay there as game moves forwards and lives around it, it stays there on one designated spot without other say on it. So it is same as garrison with that untill announced something else of it, currently we know this which points towards garrisonisming it. Can I have house in panda location and panda themes if I wish? No I cant. Iterisation is the same as of garrisons when I cant.

Not really;

That was the context. And neighbourhoods are NOT replacing expansion hubs.
You keep saying they’re like garrisons and I will keep replying that that is simply not true.

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I still cant have panda theme for my housing if I wish? Or choose the location.

Well you can, could also reply someone else for while as so far you have only replied to me when there is actually plenty of others aswell with the same conclusion who have stated that this is similar to garrisons in multiple ways. Seems to be common shared view in general.

Now you keep replying only to one person about it trying to argue something you disagree, when there is dozen people pointed out the same thing of this being close to garrions in many ways.

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Maybe we can? Housing themes have not been talked about yet. Only the neighbourhood zones.
I doubt pandaren architecture will be in the initial release though, yeah. Doesn’t mean we can’t get it later on.

But anyway; the theme and the location are not what Linaria was talking about.
She was talking about the garrison replacing hubs: Making it so players hardly ever had to leave for many things. That is NOT something housing will do.

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20 years waiting for player housing and you deliver this?

What an absolute disgrace.

I am so sick of hearing Holly Longdale spewing out the tired old trope “We’ve listened to you, our loyal players and this is what we’ve done…” when in reality they just do what they want.

Humans and Orcs again??? Really??? A recent post on Icy Veins show that Blood Elves and Night Elves are the most played races on each faction yet again we get mud huts made with sticks instead of the glory of Silvermoon city which as we all know has been completely ignored since TBC.

If you really do listen to your playerbase hold an open poll on this website and ask what races we not you really want, I’m pretty certain Orc and Human will be near the bottom of the votes.

The three pillars are a joke as well, “Boundless Self-Expression”?? Yep, if you are an Orc or Human, “acts as a desired backdrop for roleplaying” not if you play any other of the 23 races.

Please explain how “Our highest priority is to allow players to build a house that shows off their own personal tastes” will work when you only include two races?

“Long-Lasting Journey” "Housing isn’t something players should expect to “finish” “This is a long-term commitment for us as developers” Except, what’s the point? I play both factions, neither of which are Orcs or Humans, I main Druids, both Night Elf and Tauren, I want a Druids grove, or a tree house where my Druid feels like a Druid, not a stone castle or mud hut.

Why would any Role player put any effort in their house if it doesn’t represent their race of choice?

You mention “with more possible places to live in the future” possible? So not guaranteed?

I have been waiting 20 years for player housing and you deliver this?

I can also guarantee 90% of players have no interest in Neighbourhoods or social housing, run any dungeon lately? No one talks in this game now and you expect that to change with housing?

Do away with neighbourhoods and the social aspect and add more zones and everyone will be happy.

If you can only launch housing with Orcs & Humans please don’t, delay it until the following expansion and add more race zones, it just seems so utterly pointless to release this feature with just 2 out of 25 races.

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I am not the only person saying that this is close to garrisons in many ways, but you keep trying debate the matter only with me. I see multiple similarities with garrisons. Lets not nitpick it.

I hope they don’t, but they forced people do the whole Covenant restrictions thing and Dragonflying, neither of which are core gameplay.

Fair comment. I also hate those!

Thing is you told me and Tah you had us on ignore, that is all i am going to say on the matter.

And I disagree with anyone saying it.

I don’t see any similarities, so I’m really curious what you are seeing.

Covenants were definitely a core feature for Shadowlands.
And Dragonriding, yeah, but that’s also very very different.

Elves and their associated aesthetics are what a significant chunk of the community come to the game for. Hopefully that is reflected in the housing system moving forward. Looking at the offerings for the Horde aesthetics, I am once again inspired to double down on the Alliance.

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There is absolutely no proof of that. Blizzard have always been full of ambition, then the final product gets cut short to not break it. In some ways I appreciate that they attempt quality over size, but in another way this almost always end up feeling like sometjing with a lot of potential that was just cut short. The garrisons was suppose to offer different aestetics, but it ended up being Orc or Human. This time they are honest enough to tell us that it will be Orc and Human, but past history shows us that ambitions of more options fall flat, almost every time, if not always. I personally have zero faith in this ever passing the Orc and Human stage.

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The one that years later was added as a “minigame” at Darkmoon Faire. Good example. They could not make it work. Whatever they originally attempted.

The glyph system and Inscription also started with a lot of potential. Now it’s almost erased from the game.

Class halls worked out pretty decent, I’ll give them credit for that. It did not live past 1 expansion though.

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And short of inventing time travel, that’s not an ask you’re likely to see realized either. We do know what the mission statement for the Housing feature is. Whether or not you’re buying into that vision is entirely on you. :dracthyr_shrug:

I am not buying into anything. For me a big thing with housing is location - I want to be a nightelf, living in nightelven land. While I don’t directly RP, it feels like my most played character(s) do have a bit of an RP personality. I never envisioned Aylish with any attatchment to human lands, or being an “immigrant” in Eastern Kingdoms. That feels just as wrong to me as equipping that murloc suit I seem to have in my collection. I could wear it for an RP costume party maybe…

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We were meant to have different capitals in WoD but they had to scrap them.

We’ve seen various things like this over the years.

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Oh yes, most definetly. This is how I know with 99% certainty that this will not work out either. Call me a pessimist if you like. Blizzard do good things too, otherwise I would not be here, but they are also really good at regulary failing their own ambitions.

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I still think it’s a feature I’m going to enjoy. I would just like them to embrace solo play and race identity/locations.

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I dont know how far blizzard got with that survival game they were working on, but maybe they have assets from there they can use for housing in wow? Im at least looking forward to see more about how its gonna be.

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Lol at first I was imagining you were to suggest they add as side content to the 50 plot housings a battle royale, which wouldnt been too bad I guess. 50 houses last man standing format in the neighbourhood :smile: