I tried making a post about this before but hopefully this one will get more attention. I really feel that Blizzard should make the Covenant abilities do Shadowfrost damage.
I know balancing is hard and I won’t make any suggestions in redesigns. I like Frost the way it is now, I’m having a lot of fun. But this one is really simple and is honestly really frustrating as a frost player. Just change the damage type to make frost dk more appealing.
Right now it is barely played. It’s poorly represented and it’s being overshadowed by an overtuned spec. Why is it that the best melee spec in the game, ALSO gets the bonus from Covenant Abilities? Why? This makes no sense.
Let me break down the math for you to make it extra clear.
Here is how big the difference is:
[(23.67% of Attack power) * 13] Shadow damage over 12 sec to 5 nearby enemies. Let’s say we have 1200 strength. 1200 x 0.2367 = 284 dmg every second to five enemies. That’s what you deal as frost.
Just by being Unholy, nothing additional, just by simply being specced as Unholy:
284 x 50% mastery = 426 damage every second.
As frost abomination limb will deal a total of 3407 damage with 1200 strength and 50% mastery.
As Unholy it will deal 5112 with the same stats.
And this is AoE by the way, dont forget that.
Frost: 3407 x the target cap (5) = 17 035 dmg.
Unholy 5112 x target cap (5) = 25 560 dmg.
Just by being Unholy, one of your best cooldowns deals 8525 more damage.
(WITH HOTFIX THIS DAMAGE IS REDUCED BY 20%. IT SHOULD BE 6820)
Now I know you can argue that Pillar of Frost makes the covenant abilities better. But they scale much worse from AP. And it is the main cooldown for Frost, that’s where we do our damage. Anyone who plays frost knows how bad the downtime is for that spec, we move in burst windows.
And there is second reason why Pillar of frost isn’t a good reason. Pillar of frost takes time for it’s strength to build up. All that extra damage doesn’t come at once. It will be a gradual increase, depending on how well you manage to spend your runes and cooldowns, it’s earned with well-timed CD pops, not given for free like with Unholy.
I hope blizzard really comments this because it is absolutely ridiculous when you break it down. How is this fair to Frost dk’s? That unholy gets that damage bonus for free which Frost needs to work for!
Seriously guys, bump this thread because this gets my icy blood boiling. It is an absolute slap in the face to everyone who plays frost!
Here are some additional stats from the DK discord:
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If you needed any more proof that Obliteration is a useless build, here it is.
Obliteration loses at everything. Sometimes with a huge margin, almost 20-30% less damage.
And their burst AoE is absolutely pathetic. There is no reason why we shouldn’t buff covenant abilities to just do the same for Frost as it does for Unholy. This would make a really useful difference for Mythics for Obliteration build.
Look at the stat for legendaries and covenant in ST. Unholy wins everything by a margin of 1000 dps with no legendaries. Where does that extra 1000 dps come from? You guessed it, Mastery!
I would love to see someone from Blizz actually comment and defend these numbers. “Yeah you got 2h back, sure it’s worse in every way but BIG CRITS amirite?” Absolute turdburgling.