Can shadow priest plz get some damage back?

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These nerfs went way too far. 452 ilvl and doing 22k dps in m+. Nobody wants us in their group. Does Blizzard really think shadow priest is fine compared to DH / rogue / mage?

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Idk slick, the shadow priest Iā€™ve been playing with is even outdpsing me in some dungeons, and I average about 80k overall dps.

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I do 30k dps as shadow on my priest that I mainly play as holy and have no idea how to play a shadow priest.

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Can you stop spreading bs?

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Iā€™m not kidding.

Just checked your profile, you should have NO expectations whatsoever regarding your DPS. Your gear is bad AND your essences arenā€™t even fully unlocked.

If you expect to do dps, then put in the work. You need correct traits, correct essences, correct gear setup, correct enchants, correct food flask rune etc.

And remember, ilvl is NOT king, ilvl is irrelevant. Only simming matters.

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Shadow priest has only one problem in M+ - downtime between pulls.

There is no spell to suppress haste/crit stacks while out of combat, so with each pull you have to often start from no VF and low stacks, while other classes can jump right in.

It all depends on whether tank know how shadow priest works. If he doesnā€™t, then shadow priest has a bad time.

Everythingā€™s worse on bolstering weeks due to not being able to chain pull.

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OP is absolutely right. For example spriest single target is ridiculous. This class is designed for raids mostly or suits raid environment more than m+. No one wants spriest in their party for dungeons. It is very sad if you stick to m+ and just want to play spriest.

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Iā€™m pretty sure I mentioned Iā€™m 452? Meanwhile DH with worse everything and 440 ilvl out-dps me. What kind of balance is this? And if shadow priest is sooooo good according to you then how come groups complain when they see a shadow priest in the party?

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while DH could just put his finger in his rear and faceroll.

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Shadowpriests are currently viable in every content and will be able to dominate the DPS meters in most M+ situations when played correctly.

If you want to get better at playing Shadow priest, thereā€™s two things to consider:

  1. You can see what talents, stat prios and builds the world-top shadow priests are running on the raider.io list: https://raider.io/mythic-plus-character-rankings/season-bfa-4/world/priest/dps/0#content
  2. You can check out a shadow priest M+ guide: https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/shadow-priest-pve-dps-mythic-plus-tips

I notice that your choice of talents, traits and essences are not the ones used in those situations. You can probably get a lot of extra damage by farming / changing the required things.

Iā€™ve seen shadow priests doing insane amounts of DPS this season. Your class is fine.

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So again, if shadow priest are fine right now then why do groups complain when they see a shadow priest in the party? It seems like youā€™re arguing that the talents need buff.

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I hate this sort of attitude like, ā€œson of my momā€™s friend do it right, better and has no problemā€. Like this dude says ā€œI know a guyā€¦ā€. ITā€™s BS, Spriest does in fact have troubles in m+. One must be blind to deny that.

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Dude I simmed you. You should be doing 46k dps in M+.

Ok, make it 40k. How can you do 20k?

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They are not META, that doesnā€™t mean ā€œthey have troublesā€

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Because m+ is about fast burst dmg. Doesnā€™t work well for a dot class that canā€™t even keep up with burst class dps on dummies.

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Shouldā€™ve written it all from my priest char of course, so that folks can sim the **it out of me.

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Heā€™s probably doing +5s with ppl outgearing him severely so he canā€™t even do dps to begin with.

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Itā€™s really frustrating to M+ as SP.
You CAN do decent damage, but with thrice the effort of any other class, and only when you start having good to super good gear. It just gets daunting whe you see most classes just going effortlessly, some times at the press of a single button. You really have to put effort to be able to ā€œperform wellā€ unlike most classes.

And the poster above saying he does 30K damage without knowing how to play a SP, thatā€™s just absolute BS.

Shadow needs to be reworked really bad. Our available talents are just senseless.

Yesterday a did a M10, and the tank was the top damage thanks to Twilight Devastation - so thereā€™s a lot of stuff just disencoraging us from playing. I performed well, never died and did decent damage, with the difference that I had to put effort into it

Simming doesnā€™t take into account the countless variables in M+

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Yes I know that 22k dps is not the best I can do, but if I mess up for just a second my dps goes to garbage. Meanwhile on my outlaw rogue all I have to do is press one button every 15 seconds to do amazing dps.

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Assassination rogue is a dot class. Most of my damage in M+ comes from Garrote dot, Rupture dot, Dealy Posion dot. Higher keys I add Crimson Tempest talent, which is a dot. And I do 70k overall at the end of dung in my M+ setup.

Mobs in M+ donā€™t die in 5 sec. Itā€™s about 20-40 sec, which is ideal for your dots to tick down right when the mob dies. Or re-dot the mob again, for it to die by the time it runs out the second time.

So sim yourself, get close to the numbers youā€™re simming, and youā€™ll be fine.