Exactly. Making a mistake as SP can be pretty costly
I do 10% Less than what I sim because of that. Not 115% less.
1 - youâre a rogue
2 - that being said, youâre one of the classes can that go in, and press a button twice, along with other friend, the mobs are instantly at 50% or less, and the SP is still putting up the dots on the third mob, after the tank took them to out of the SP los, or after some affix preventing me from applying them faster.
SPs do not have a burst. Packs usually die too fast before our damage ramps up enough to do something noticeable, especially on lower keys. I usually use Iris in M+ simply because at least every 1.5 minutes it will rank up my damage pretty high - but itâs all artificial, because I depended on the neck to do my first or second top damage ability in the whole dungeon. I shouldnât have to depend on it to perform well. SPs have some serious mechanical problems that need to be sorted out. Thatâs reality
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You canât expect Spriest to deal massive dmg in low keys, especially when you play with talents and Azerite traits that benefit his void form that takes a good amount of ramp up time and isnât efficient in short fights.
In Season2 I played with mind sear Azerite traits, and dark void and dark ascension talents on my priest because otherwise the dmg in trash packs was too low. Except for a bit lower boss dmg I always ended with acceptable overall dmg and then used other traits and talents when mobs lived longer in higher keys.
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So?
Thatâs just a load of BS. Seeing what youâre writing here, youâve no idea how my spec works, so just stop.
Iâll repeat again, if youâre nowhere near your SIMDPS, youâre just bad, no matter what class you play.
All in all I see you like talking out of your a$$ so Iâll stop replying to you, thxbai. Git gud btw.
Itâs about the raw damage. Our dots are nearly useless now after the massive nerfs. I feel they should increase mind blast and shadow world:void dmg by 20% to help our single target dps. If weâre not allowed to do good dot dmg then at least let do some single target burst.
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Isnât this enough for you to show that SPs have mechanical issues? You had to keep on changing talents, farm different azerits in the same season, let alone if you do Raids and PvP too, so add another bazillion variables - and all of that to just âperform decentâ. You shouldnât need to resort to such a convulted way just to perform decent. You should be able to perform decent with your baseline, and you should be able to perform amazing with all of those variables added in the equation
So, you can simply jump into a pack, spam one button, and do top dmage with it instantly and effortlessly.
Aaand of course youâll then resort to personal attacks, and tell me to get good, while you play one of the most effortless and dumb specs in the game right now.
Also, I donât need to âgit goodâ. I perform well with the tools Iâm provided, and I do the best out of it - the exeption being, I actually have to put effort into it, unlike you
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You barely have any essences and your azerite traits and stats are crap. Spriests are incredibly reliant on traits and perfect stats. Not to mention youâre using a healing trinket. Like you canât expect to do good damage without putting some effort into your character first.
You just admitted thereâs a big problem.
i did few m+ with shadow priests and they were doing really good. like 75k avg dps
Itâs a big problem for most classes not just Spriests. But still, in order to do optimize your dps you need to optimize your character.
no this is what you get for being a filthy void worshiper that said you think in a war ⊠lol erm i mean Void Theme expansion shadow priest would be stronger
What was the key level?
What was the SP ilvl?
What were his top hitting abilities? Which corruptions did he have? Itâs easy to do good damge, if the RNG gods gifted you good corrupted items. If in the top damaging abilites lies corruption and/or essences/trinkets stuff, it only shows that SPs have a baseline problem. Most damage shouldnât come from outside sources
So you saying I need BIS everything just to do decent dps.
No, Iâm saying you need to actually put in some work into your character before you expect results.
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No but you need to put some effort into maintaining your character. I gave you a good amount of suggestions to look up which you chose to ignore. You have the wrong essences, the wrong talents and bad stats. Also youâre using a healing trinket, which equals to not using a trinket at all despite being 460 ilvl. Change this all and youâll do more DPS. No class plays well without some of the requirements met.
Itâs not about BiS - itâs about equipping things that are good for you.
I also linked you a guide in my previous comment that should solve some of the gameplay issues that you mentioned.
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my experience with spriest in m+ is that they dont bring anything worth it to the table. 7% stam scroll id take the -3% int instead the lacking dps from a spriest.
i dont wanna act like an expert since i just recently got back to BFa and started doing m+. but when i compare Ret paladin to shadow priest, i really wonder how itâs balanced.
Ret brings bubble (ignore mechanic) BOP (can ignore mechanic). blessing of wisdon for healer, and kings for tank.
not to mention some of the insane word of glories i have seen, feels like lay on hands aoe. Also their damage seems higher both aoe and single target.
SPs simply arenât outstanding in anything, at least M+ related.
Our damage got nerfed, and it hurt us even further. As as said above, we do not bring anything of use to the table, beyond the Stam buff. Most specs can easily outdamage us effortlessly, and with less better gear in M+
Again, I donât mean SPs do outright bad. I can perform acceptably with mine, but thatâs about it really
I wonât deny that void form already had problems in Legion when it was introduced. But changing talents depending on what content you want to do should be the intended way. Having one talent that is superior in every possible scenario shouldnât be the norm.
But here it works as intended: when you need more burst dmg you choose the talents that enable you to do so and counter one of your specâs weaknesses to a certain degree.
Azerite traits and essences are also a problem for many other specs where they increase the value of your off CDs by a huge amount. As retri pala, boomkin, fire mage, or frost DK not being able to use your CD in the most effective way also leads to mediocre dmg.
But just like specs like frost mage or demo lock have to find a way to deal with heavy movement fights you also have to find a way to perform atleast decent in situations where your spec has a weakness (and unlike Affli lock, Spriests have the option through talents and Azerite traits).