Haha , then this dude comes along. Now show me which pvp god is parsing blue? Couse they need to pve for gear in Sod.
If im the worst rogue , dont Even wanna give A name to you. Join the noob grey-blue parser alliance with Wave
Not what Iâve heard. 
Pretty sure âfrom behindâ on opportunity is just a flavor text, because none of the abilities mentioned there can be cast from the front.
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Ye thatâs not correct dude
The 20 % does not apply from the front. Kek
Yes it does.
Dude go and test it yourself. Youâre spreading miss information
Havent felt it inside raids. Couse i mostly stand behind. But Even with that , do you burst people from 100-0 inside bgs these days ?
Ah yes. Classic.
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20% dmg boost from talent apply to mutilate from any angle actually. Tool tip says that it works if behind target because for example you cannot use backstab in front and mutilate benefits from everything backstab gets, but have no positioning restriction, so it works in front too, itâs misunderstood by many.
Probably not. If youâre mega lucky on a low armor target you could bang 3 double crits out in a row which is what 2100 damage? So 3s to get that out. I have 3.1k hp in BGs so no 1 rogue isnât taking me down that fast. A rogue would have to actually play properly stunlocking to kill me 1v1 and get the opener. Tbh 2.1k with decent rng over 3s isnât really that impressive compared to other classes
Tested it before , but clearly I gotta do again.
Also mutilate does 20% more if target is poisoned, instant poisons are not poisoning the target (because itâs instant)
Take that in account, can confuse you.
When testing you would see the 20% less dmg because no poison debuff on target, and may happens to have it when you test in back side, it can leave you with different results.
Peace!
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And I mean, no wonder. The in-game tooltip itself is incorrect.
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Pshero to name one, you have one 99 parse when try harding - I have two in my PvP spec not even trying - even at your own parsing game your trash mate.
Ye mostly for pve couse of you have deadly so havent thought about it. But didnt think oppurtunity worked if you aint behind.
Any1 got A link where its tested?
Parsing game , lol we are running 6-7 melee 
either way, all im saying if you have issues with mutilate. Check 40-50 other spells that are Worse in Sod!
And then check how rogues are doing in pve these days. Im not saying mutilate aint broken, but if you are removing broken abilities/spells there are alot more of spells infront on the nerf hammer
Nicht gut.
Itâs starsurge all over again. âOh, that classâs strugglinâ, letâs give em one op rune, thatâll fix things!â. And that bandied completely warps the class around itself, technically somewhat keeping it afloat in balancing department. I honestly expect it being nerfed back to 60 the moment p3 drops and weâre no longer facing robot bois with 9001 armor.
Ye I literally donât know why there isnât runes for each aspect of rogue. 40 energy mutilate makes slaughter pointless
I would much rather they made mutilate like 50 energy. Buffed saber slash % damage by like 15% and made slaughter from the shadows have some synergy with other finishers like rupture or eviscerate. There Is so many obvious ideas for rogue that wouldnât be busted and would open the doors for other styles or play.
Which is why I go back to the Devs really seem like they have failed rogue in sod currently. It is just underwhelming
Balance Mutilate and give rogues raid buffs to make them more appealing in PvE - perhaps SS needs a buff to make it more competitive as damage.
For PvP, sure there are many abilities and classes that need to get balanced out.
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I kinda considered SoD to be a testing ground for classic+ in the future. But if thatâs the case - what are we testing? âIs 40 energy builder that gives you 2 combo points and hits like a truck any goodâ? But maybe itâs just me and SoDâs just a âdone and goneâ deal.
Well I mean yes so did I. But rogue hasnât changed since P2 release and everyone could have said without even using napkin maths that the mutilate change was gonna make it strong.
If classic plus is gonna be based on how rogue is right now and sod is the testing grounds the the test is failing.
Like you could make a rune to make it so when you used eviscerate it also applies rupture and it would be just about the same damage as envenom with all the extra poison procs. That is how unbalanced the runes are currently. 2 original 5 point spenders combined roughly equate to 1 spender.