Can we nerf DK utility against casters for once?

They should allow channels to damage AMS absorb shields while they are on, without having to precast them.

No. They simply should remove the magic immunity component from AMS. It makes no sense in the first place, since it’s already a magical absorb

Sorry but after being useless vs casters all dragonflight I think we deserve to be ok into casters for once.

And I’m glad blizzard saw this and gave dk the anti caster buffs it desperately needed.

And before some caster main comes and tells me dk was good into casters in df.
Go look at s4 ladder in 3v3 Not even ONE dk got r1 or even close to it.

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Excuse me?! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You must be living in a different reality

Yeah we are ? because you didn’t even play dragonflight mr challenger 1 season 1

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There is absolutely zero way you said this with a straight face

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I was serious, dk had the least amount of r1 titles in eu 3v3.

The higher rated you are the less you see dks.
Only in s2 it was really broken because of aug not letting it die.

Dk is legit fine. I’m more worried about fury warriors

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You say DK is fine, because as lock you have ways to take down AMS.

DK is not fine. Its toolkit against casters is absurd and needs to be toned down. For now all I ask is:

  • Remove magic immunity component from AMS
  • Remove blanket silence

I did and i Did not see a single shadow there, maybe shadow need some kind od help?
Tbh shadow has been a joke for ages, it has no mobility, no interrupt, its cc is kinda joke compared to other classes. Dmg has samé issue as af as it does no single target pressure.

We are not really arguing shadow performance here, if a spec doesn’t have r1 cutoff i think it should be buffed especially for classes that only have 1 dps spec.

But if you are playing warlock and one spec is giga broken and the others are bad i don’t think it warrants immediate changes.

So whole class should be nerfed because it counters only 1 (your) class?

Its like removing blink because warrior complain, or mass dispell because pala complain. Or pala’s bop because ww monk/war complain.

How in the world is blink in any way comparable to AMS?? A war can still close gap the blink and deal damage. The mage doesn’t become immune to melee damage for blink’s “duration”.

AMS, which is A MAGIC ABSORB!!!, losing the magic IMMUNITY component will remain as an ABSORB either way.

Pull you damn head out of the sand for once and stop making senseless comparisons.

Not to mention our DS got a heavy nerf at the start of DF due to a bugged Talent that haven’t been reverted.

I mean yes he mentioned dk vs casters however as hes playing spriest i can see why he thinks that. Tbh i dont think hes wrong, most classes should be pruned, we Once again came to the point where everyone has too much utility, cds and. Look at wrath, lock had for example 1 deff cd (hs which was like 5-10% ho anyway), coil had 2,5x longer cd so it wasnt that aids etc. And yet i had way more Fun playing with wrath design than playing with df design. Maybe i’m just old however i feel like i can’t even play around cds anymore. Someone can waste a deff cdy in different expansions i would Insta punish that however now i’m like nice 3 more left.

I fail to see how that translates to “DK was useless into CASTERS up until TWW”. I’m interested in the reasoning that begins with the first sentence and leads, through sound logic no doubt, to the second one.

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Well old man time to play rbgs now, I mean to be fair I feel like i’m getting slower too.

I guess it’s rbg time now we should let the zoomers take over the 3v3 bracket now.
I mean you couldn’t have expected to keep up to the game at the highest level after you are way into your 30s.

I think I’m gonna become an rbg andy.
It’s the main pvp bracket anyways next to shuffle.

You have an arguement if you are talking about other brackets or lower level 3s gameplay.

But if we are talking 3v3 at the r1 range dk was completely shut down and obsolete most of dragonflight

Pretty sure Shadow has had 0 people getting r1 in EU for the last 2 seasons. Was definitely 0 last season, can’t remember 100% if it was 0 the season before but I’m sure it was.

Anyway a spec having a small/no amount of r1 titles would only be relevant to the topic at hand (and your point) if the meta at that level was just caster comps. It wasn’t. It was Ele/Dh, DH/Dev, Feral Mage, Feral Dev, Rogue Mage. More melees got r1 last season than casters.

DK, especially UH, hasn’t been ‘useless vs casters’ (your words) in a very long time.

If you compare the number of melee specs that got r1 and ranged specs that got rank 1 the range specs outnumber melee ones by alot and to say it wasn’t fully caster meta is dishonest not to mention the amount of balance druids and frost mages and warlock wizard cleaves.

However I do agree that unholy dk stomps less experienced people hard especially in chaotic situations like shuffle.

But I’m not comparing melee to ranged, I’m comparing melee to caster. If you’re going to start arguing semantics and say ‘well DK and Ret aren’t melees’ I can just put you on ignore now and save both of our time.

1 Hunter spec (the most melee oriented btw) got r1 in EU, 0 MM, 0 BM.

24 casters, 28 melees. Where are you seeing this ‘outnumbered by a lot’?

0 Warlocks got r1 in EU last season btw. 0.

It factually wasn’t! What do you even know, you stopped playing the game after you cheesed Glad pre-DH nerfs, surprised you didn’t come back to try and cheese another Solo Shuffle r1 on Blood! :rofl:

Tbh, it might have been a caster meta when, let’s say caster cleaves:

:wink:

‘Fully caster meta’ but the most anti caster caster class didn’t even get a single r1. Work that one out :smile:

UH Dk’s destroy pretty much every single caster in the game. Losing to casters as UH DK in DF and losing to one now should be an automatic uninstall.