Oh I didn’t mean to imply they’re terribly unique.
But it is precisely their internal differences and their fervour that makes them like this. They disagree internally - for example you’ve got intersectionalists and TERF’s and all sorts of other groups - and many of them get very angry when you disagree with them.
But I mean you’ve also got libertarians and conservatives raging at each other, but I find it fairly tame compared to socialists, who literally killed hundreds of millions of people - including other socialists - because they got upset at different opinions.
I think the most tolerant group of people are probably liberals. As in, classical liberals - people who want to get government out of the way and just let people live their lives. However even they can have a go.
But then… if you really want to find communities that never have a go… like; I’ve been spending a lot of time in the StarCraft 2 community and Classic Tetris community, and I have never ever seen even an ounce of hate about anything. Except Protoss and their friggin’ lasers (xD) but I mean that’s more of a joke and not actual dislike.
I know you didn’t. It wasn’t about you at all - sorry if I made it seem that way.
You will never see grown up person questioning his/her idenity.
Its always youth,in puberty mostly,privileged kids,who are bored out of their minds,who live and hang out on social media,who follow what’s ‘‘IN’’ these days,rather than living actual life.
Lets be absolutely fair here, in a lot of European languages (Not mine) Windows are female. Tables are male. How does that even work? I think the only time in my language an inanimate object is given a gender/sex is with regards ships, which are generally referred to as ‘She’, and no, I cannot explain that either, but we don’t refer to anything else by gender, it’s just ‘a window’ or ‘a table’, so language, no matter how old it is, is a very tricky beast to try and hang options on.
Weirdly I attend a massive LARP Fest system, in excess of 2,000 people, at those events, most of the toilet blocks are Unisex. Anyone can go into them, close the cubicle door and do their business. There has been in over ten years precisely zero complaints about this. No one has felt threatened or marginalised, Men, Women, trans people are all perfectly capable of utilising the same facilities without a single issue.
The biological norm is that people need to micturate or defecate, that is all. Now if those toilet blocks had urinals, I could understand it, because blokes would be stood there with their tadger in hand, having a widdle, which is obviously not good if say, a young child was going into said toilet block, but that’s not really great whatever the sex of the child is. When everything is equal, as in everyone has a cubicle, then there is no problem. No damned problem at all.
Now I don’t think for a moment, that LARPers are automatically some sainted people who are more tolerant than others, I’ve met enough (Redacted) people at events to know that this is not the case, however equally, no one has ever kicked off about both sexes sharing a toilet block. It is only a problem, when people -make- it a problem, which is basically them just not liking people for ‘reasons’.
If left to their own devices, people are generally pretty cool with just, y’know, being people…
On that, I completely 100% agree with you.
Weirdly I fit that definition, I am Heteronormative, I’m pretty much the Devil as far as Twitter goes. I am white, straight and male. I’m also (I like to think) not a douchecanoe, I don’t give a monkeys who sticks what in who, or does not stick what in who as it may be, what colour skin they have, it was pretty hilarious being told that I was a racist because I played Horde. Genuinely was stated by a certain Human Male Paladin poster who seems to have vanished. My Girlfriend at the time, who was a person of colour I believe the phrase is, found that hilarious…She kept calling me a ‘Cracker’ for days afterwards, I also have a younger cousin who is going through the whole Trans thing, FTM, and everyone has been very supportive, and It’s easy. He is a He. It isn’t difficult.
So I absolutely agree with what you say, Pickpawkit, but not all of ‘us’ are like that, if you see what I mean.
I think pops point is the social role dominates the biological. You state males can get pregnant and females can’t get pregnant from other females, but we do not define these genders solely by these attributes, so saying to someone “you can’t be a woman because you can’t give birth” is nonsense. You may as well tell sterile women they have no identity, given they can’t impregnate individuals nor get pregnant.
Social behaviour is the principle determinant of what we consider someone’s gender to be, and alluding to biology to do that for us is ridiculous. Even as far as sex expectations as well I’d say.
If you meet someone who presents outwardly as a man, occupies all the conventions of male behaviour, are you going to deny they’re a man unless you see them impregnate someone or do a DNA test? Probably not.
I get the allusion to biology, but it shouldn’t get in the way of common sense as to how it actually works. And how it actually works is 99.9% of people don’t use ones biological makeup on the chromosome level to identify what sex or gender someone else is. They use social cues and physical appearance, both of which can be changed and manipulated.
At least my language managed to make a common gender.
But humans have no gender unlike every other animal, which is common gender. Even fictional animals or friggin’ Pokemon.
Why?
For the glory of Satan, of course.
And then there’s words that are both common gender and neuter gender because we don’t quite know yet (or at least our language doesn’t) whether it’s alive or not: A virus.
Is virus a living organism that moves about and therefore an “animal”? Well, maybe. Let’s make it common gender.
Oh wait, it might be a thing that’s not really alive that just makes people sick like some abstract thing. Well… let’s make it neuter.
Actually, let’s do this with bacteria, too.
But cells? No, cells are definitely alive.
This is a weird one. Tons of cases of older individuals battling identity and making decision to transition when older when their circumstances change and allow for it and until that point keeping quiet about their struggle.
Like, not even fringe cases here. You get it with people and trans, or coming out as gay, it’s actually really well documented. “Toying with identity” is not the remit of spoiled kids at all.
Okay this made me laugh, even if I think our opinions differ on subject but our attitudes of “not my business” align.
I think the idea that anyone whom adopts an even marginally questioning attitude to some elements of the whole raft of LGBT and gender identity stuff lives on alt right websites is ridiculous.
As said I’m supportive of LGBT people and have actively scrapped on their behalf in my youth. Yet I still think certain aspects of the trans support community/charities (such as those that push gender identity on children whom simply show non stereotyped play interests) are way way out of line. But I’d never oppose someone deciding themselves that in fact they want to transition.
Ah yes the website that still refuses to ban hateful subreddits like Livestreamfails and more? Not to mention all the furry hate subreddits, and more… Yeah, as I said. Alt right.
No, it’s not. A role is something you have to do. No man has to impregnate anyone else and no woman has to have children. They can, but that’s not their role.
Then stop being against the people who try to make it normal. Because that’s the end goal, it’s not even hidden.
Again - nothing biological in relation to the privacy part. This is social and it was constructed around the 18th-19th century with their puritan values.
This is what the nicotine corporations said when we found out smoking causes cancer. People use debate in order to stall progress because they stand to lose from changes to the status quo. There are numerous studies into how identity is formed, which we kind of need to provide psychiatric help to people. How the brain affects it, how it works in relation to society. Sociology is an incredibly important science for a species that can get depression from simply existing in a society. We know how for example, Japan’s suicide rate is related to their social structure. We know we live in a world where society can push people to kill themselves and we have an infinite number of people who think the science studying this is stupid.
Progress and research cannot happen as long as people are reductive. I mean… it will happen, just the reductive people will be left behind.
Which model would be shown in game if non binary is selected?
Do you choose Male or Female but then have a Tick-box which you choose Non Binary. This tick-box wouldn’t actually do anything in game but you know you’ve pressed it.
Or do you want every race (or only humans as Role Playing / Imagination should be used here but for some reason isn’t) to have a new model created that is neither male nor female but something in between. Quite a lot of work for something one person wants.
Using Role Playing / Imagination allows you to be Trans gender in game if you want. Under the armour every character wears is whatever you imagine it to be. You can use the gender change in the barder shop if this helps with immersion.
Same goes for orientation, you characters can be attracted to male, female, both, neither, dragon, elf or murloc.
Yes, but also the site that refuses to ban eggirl (a trans sub busy telling everyone that they should realise they’re feeling trans) and thousands of adult subs, including very disturbing fetishes. They banned the donald but kept politics, which would indicate they have left wing partisanship actually.
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