Yeah i would want anything like that far away from daily and world content.
Its things like putting sockets behind rep grinds that got world content gutted in the first place.
And as a world content player, i dont even care about adding sockets unless its like the simple neck enchant from the AH. Its of no loss to me if that sort of stuff is gone.
if you put a good mount title cosmetic set behind it , itâll take attention like it did before.
Yes but they have rank systems and battle passes , good cosmetics skins etc. wow gives you one mount and maybe one title in 6 months of doing the same thing. the rest you just try to reach a virtual rating level that has zero meaning . it could be fun , but itâs not. and again, i donât want it to be removed, it should stay and get improvements to make it more fun for people who prefer that content.
Repeating the same content in PvP has variety because youâre playing against people who behave different each time. PvE is against the same bot in the same scenario.
Only with different people and the first 5 people can easily kill the saidâŚbot. But the next 5 people for some reason canât. Its not black and white as you claimâŚ
Where is Tah when you need him. Aight. Gonna play the devils advocateâŚ
A wild casual player has appeared = Cosmetics doesnât help me kill the boars quicker! I want to grow more stronger so I can kill those 10 boars in 1 seccond instead of 2!!!
90% of your interactions are with the NPCs though, not with the 4 guys dodging the same circles as you.
And Sludgefist wonât suddenly run behind a pillar to los your chaos bolt. Adding replay value to PvE is immensely harder than to PvP. Which is why CSGO and LoL can play on the same map for 20 years while PvE players demand new raids and dungeons all the time, and rage when itâs recycled.
World power progression is of course important too. Character growth is extremely rewarding.
Going from the start of the patch when things take a while to kill to ending up cutting through packs of them by the end just feels good.
How you get the gear and the route to upgrade it is just as important. Too fast and its boring. Too slow and its tiring. If its weekly content then youre less active throughout the week meaning youve less stuff to do.
Naturally however, there should be a limit on what is and isnt achievable.
I have come to believe that world gear should end up at the same place that lfr gear does.
If its worse than lfr gear, then lfr completely overshadows the work youre doing.
If world gear is better than lfr, then lfr becomes redundant and you dont bother doing it.
And if theyre equal to each other, then you can do both and thats awesome. Especially since world players and people who do lfr overlap as a demographic.
And this is always the tension point. I heard enoughâŚarguments that killing boars should give you mythic gear with the excuse being used âshould take a while longer toâŚcompensateâ.
i think he quit⌠even he is gone. you can also make challenging open world content to give good gear but that requires many changes in the game, doesnât seem possible to do in wow and right now we can get 424 which is fine as long as itâs good enough to do the solo challenges or higher geared players getting scaled to 424 when they do that particular challenge for example. if we had good cosmetic rewards from actually doing some content but no gear i wouldnât complain this much.
Why running low level M+ or LFR is out of casual mindset these days? Frankly, even normal raid is sooooooooooo casual and easy itâs a crime to avoid it if you play this game.
the problem is, WE will be forced to do this mind numbing, tedious content.
If we cant force you to do our content (which is fair) why should we be forced to do yours?
I know you said we arenât forced to do itâŚbut blizzard WILL force anything they spend time on.
Those have a very strong and difficult mechanic which only the most gifted people can overcome.
Joining a group and playing with others. Maybe even doing the most impossible, unforgivable, sinful thing ever = socializing.
If you are a loner, the game is not for you - itâs MMORPG which lost its RPG part mostly but itâs MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER AND ONLINE.
I donât get it, back when I was a casual I still ran ez group content. Iâm perplexed to think what current casuals expect.
If they are given another Mage Tower like feature, they will cry itâs too hard and time consuming for a casual xDDDDDDDD
You can go casually walk in Elwyn Forest.
because this is an open world mmorpg and not everyone who asks for casual content means easy content. lower keys or normal raid both are jokes to me . i wonât enjoy it unless itâs mythic but i donât have time for that or pushing +25 with a good team . however, I would be here for a quicker challenge idk if you play eso but it has arenas that you can solo and get good rewards quickly or at least try and log off. wowâs endgame is only about instanced content right now and itâs a shame for a game on this scale.
no you wonât . your gear will be better or equilevant/same so you wonât be forced to do it. itâs not like the forbidden reach gear.
yes and thatâs their fault why you guys are all so against us because they traumatised you with chores but it doesnât have to be like that. there are many ways to make sure that m+ or raid players wonât be forced to do it and i am willing to go into more detai llike making solo challenges share lockouts with raids etc. or just make good cosmetic sets as rewards.
iâm not against group content, iâm against group GRIND. itâs really not hard to understand.
casual doesnât only mean solo or easy content thatâs where youâre wrong. i gave you an example but clearly you have no experience in any other mmo so you didnât get it.
I am not allergic to other people so I agree with what you are saying.
Unfortunately the moment you say âgroup up, find friends, join communities and etc etc etc.â
They immiedetly start throwing their pre-canned excuses:
I got social anxiety!
I got 5 jobs, 10 hamsters to feed. I dont have time to shedule my time for others!
People are toxic and not lining up to talk to me!
and many more obviouslyâŚ
The term âcasualâ itself is extremely subjective and people will always twist it to meet their needs.
Casual can mean doing easy stuff. Casual can mean sticking to WQs, leveling or collecting.
Heck Ive seen people claiming themselves to be âcasualâ while they mythic raid. Asking, why they think they are casual? Answer: I just raid once a week, not like those hard core people doing it 3-4 times a week.
Some m+ also claim to be casual but at the same time doing +20s(in time) because âJust doing it for the weekly. Not one of those hardcore which are chasing rio for 0.5% topâ.
And all of them are right cause the term âcasualâ does NOT have a defined starting and ending border. So what is a casual player? WellâŚask 10 people here and you will get 10 different answers alone.
Could you give us a bit more specifics , iâm a casul and opinion will always be that an opinion.
But what makes you feel bored ? I got 3 toons and I just run lfr and do some Wqâs and Iâm having a blast
Nobody said you would or should be forced into anything.
The game I mentioned doesnât force this on you at all, and I donât think even blizz would force casual content on anyone. Because its just that, casual.
Casual content means no socializing why exactly?
yeah but you can make all of them happy with few additions to the game . weâre even okay to get some old stuff back like someone asks for dailies, if those dailies have a good reward at the end of a rep then iâll be okay with it too. right now, there isnât anything for us to do in dragonflight, nothing new and with good rewards.
i want challenging solo content like mage tower. but iâm also ok with reps giving good cosmetics rn all renown rewards are ugly and boring and many people already filled them out. wqs can be done in an hour and they donât give much either, not enough gold, no cosmetic options, no good gear. lfr takes 30 mins queue time and like i said , i donât like doing the same raid over and over again itâs way more boring than doing dailies. for one last time, i, myself, am not trying to get more easy content here. even ââhardââ things in this game are not hard imo.