The legacy buff is fine.
I’m working on BfA now as I didn’t play for 8 years. I just finished unlocking Kul’tirans solo. You’ll notice my gear is pretty trash at only 180ilv. I found the BfA dungeons pretty tough, I had to use all my mage powers (as frost) to get through many of the tougher fights.
The mind control dungeons were pretty tricky. The 3 witches need burst to get them to switch their orb or it resets. The storm guy, forgot his name, I had to iceblock x 2 to avoid his mind control solo. No idea how you’d get around it as a Druid. Some fights were really tough due to adds, some gear would have beaten those easier for sure.
There’s no chance I can solo Mechagon though. The adds on one of the first bosses do way too much damage.
All elites in dungeons in BfA take just as much of a beating as in SL. The only plus to being 10 levels higher as 60 is that you gain some avoidance to their attacks. If flurry or icelance doesn’t proc, it’s like 9 frost bolts to kill something with 12k hp…
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The legacy buff WAS fine. The devs deliberately broke it.
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This should not be a thing.
I soloed Motherlode (only normal) to unlock Dark Iron Dwarves at 120 in little better than Benthic gear.
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i have 17k on my lvl 53 guardian druid, and 34 k on my 60 hunter, you are basically using a freshly capped character, get some gear in order to farm old dungeons.
No they don’t deliberately ruin their game.
It’s Blizzard being stubborn or incompetent.
We’ve seen it in the past with the stat squishes and to no surprise it happened again with level squishing.
Remember how they told us we could do everything we could before? Yeah, one of Ion’s usual lies again. 
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- They did it deliberately.
- Perhaps they don’t think it ruins the game.
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You are being trolled ignore them .
As long as someone makes a coherent and relevant point, motives are not material.
It actually brings up an interesting question of the whichness of the why.
I do agree that the devs never set out to sabotage their own game, and it’s a point I’ve made myself many times. The road to hell, of course, is paved with good intentions.
The original designers, we are told, came from other MMORPGs, and had the aim to make a game that they would enjoy playing. I fear nowadays the designers are trying to make a game that they would enjoy designing. Big difference, and possibly relevant here.
A lot of people spend a lot of time soloing old content. If the devs stubbornly insist that they have made some great content for Shadowlands that should keep everybody happy (well, as happy as the playerbase ever is) and if they think they won’t lose (too many) subs because of the awfulness of scaling, why shouldn’t they play dumb and hope they can preserve their vanity?
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I meant to mention this earlier.
I salute you!
I’ve been believing - and saying to people I’ve boosted through BfA dungeons in the last month or so - that these two dungeons were un-soloable because of the MC. I “knew” that, so I never even thought to try.
Well done for finding your way through. And if you ever want a bodyguard through Mechagon, I’ll be honored to send my Paladin to tank as many adds as you like. 
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I guess that was something related to Chromie time / all expansions being flattened into 10-50. As in, deliberate, but not in order to specifically harm farming old content, but in order to make scaling smoother or whatever.
They should really fix it already though. It’s damn annoying to be weaker at 60 than at 50 for Legion content and it’s damn annoying to spend minutes trying to kill BFA rares (not even mythic elites) - this was never the case in the whole history of the legacy buff.
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I can’t believe, they still have not fixed it. Countless bug reports ingame, many “examples” that master Ion wanted to hear and still not a single blue post of at least some acknowledgement. What I don’t understand is why they fixed it (more or less) for all content below lvl 40 (basically up to draenor) and left Legion mythic raids and whole chunk of BFA content untouched with terrible tuning (health pools, dot ticks etc…). It is obvious that it’s deliberate. But for what reason? Why are they cutting the old content from huge amount of soloing playerbase? It seems to me they don’t want our money.
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They likely think that (a) there are bigger problems to fix, and (b) the problem is slowly solving itself as people get more gear. The thing is, (b) is not true. The difference is too high to be helped by gear. (a) is perhaps true, though, SL is full of huge issues. Sad times.
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SL is full of huge issues, they shouldn’t release it in that state in the first place. But they promised us that squish will not change the way we solo old content. For me it was one of the main reasons why I bought SL and game time for that. Now I feel like I’ve been cheated as a customer.
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So this means i cant farm mythic Legion raids or Bfa normal raids? Wth… id continue sub for farming tmog but even that seems to be timegated now…
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Well I managed to solo mythic Goroth and Inquisition in ToS, but it was painful as hell. I expect to do it easily same as I was able to do WoD mythic raids in BFA bad gear. And no you cant solo BFA raids at all, even dungeons are impossible or taking forever to do. And of what I know, you can’t even do LFR BFA raids, because there is no place where you can queue. The same problem is with mythic Island expeditions. They said we should be able to solo them, but not only we are not able to solo them, we can’t even queue them solo. That’s for their “working as intended” policy.
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Some guy on reddit justified having a hard time soloing Legion mythic raids now by posting a video of a geared guy at the start of BFA having a hard time soloing mythic EN. Eg, “see? this was hard before as well, so this is all normal”.
What he missed is that mythic EN is from Legion = one expansion before BFA. But now Legion is two expansions before SL. Soloing Legion now should be as easy as soloing WoD was in BFA. And soloing WoD raids in BFA was very easy. You didn’t need any gear besides quest greens. The only culprit was the first boss in HFC and that was because of mechanics (which got nerfed later).
It’s broken.
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I am amazed there is a discussion about this and some people think it is fine. Anyone with an IQ in double figures can see it is broken. We cannot do now at level 60 ilvl 200+ what we could do as a low geared 120 in bfa. I’m just getting to the point where I can kill what I could as a 120 but it is damn hard (Gul’dan). Antorious (last two bosses) is still a complete no go and it is from LEGION.
Even mythic0 dungeons from BfA are hard work (You will die if you pull to much, ironically the bosses are easier than the trash - I invs in Freehold to the to the final boss who doesn’t really do damage but has relatively massive HP)
Farming older content is a massive part of the game for many people and one of the reasons why WoW is just not ‘working’ for me right now.
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There were countless cry threads about not being able to solo legion raids. I remember going in Mythic ToS and Antorus with 10+ ppl at the start of BFA.