An act of treason in the midst of a war. Say hello to the shooting squad you oversized hamburger container.
“Just because we are at war doesn’t mean we should be unkind to each other”. Motherf***r that’s exactly what a war is.
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True. is treason. But like Von Stauffenberg during ww II this is an act of courage.
For Baine and the True Horde!
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Nehh i dont want sylvanas to become like a lich quuen.
Let the hamburger stay alive for another Expansion
And after that get himself killed by a NPC
So we shal know im as voljin the second
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Awesome analogy. So you would’ve supported betraying the US and helping Japan win following the drop of Big Boy, Correct?
War is HELL, get over yourselves people
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No. But horde needs a new chieftain and not a ruler totally inept in war. A Peon orc would have manage better the UC siege and Zuldazaasaarazatdar attack.
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Current horde leader is evil and insane get your facts straight, the analogy with the Hitler fits her, and anyone who wants to get rid of such leader to get the horde to the honorable path is doing a good thing. One of the rare heroes on which currently Germany is still proud on from the WW2 period is Erwin Rommel because he in the war did stick to the military code of honor and didn’t hurt civilians, and he had a tragic death because he also wanted to get rid of insane madman which was leading his country during that period in a coup. Saurfang and Baine are good guys.
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We just need Sylvanas dropped. She’s killing the horde and it’s turning into a Garrosh 2.0 which isn’t very exciting in my own PoV.
With Garrosh I could understand his actions and it was a pretty cool story overall but with Sylvanas I just end up muting/sighing because her voice/actions annoys me (along with Nathanos) and they don’t care about anything except killing.
Bring back Thrall ![:pleading_face:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/pleading_face.png?v=6" ":pleading_face:")
Edit: I think the worst thing was that we had Vol’jin and he just gets chucked away instantly, and replaced with Sylvanas for reasons I can’t actually comprehend since no one has ever trusted her.
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Yes garrosh was the best. unfortunately he drove insane. Such a waste…
Thanks for your concern regarding my knowledge of history. I assure you it’s unmerited, but thanks all the same. Touching.
Doesn’t detract from the point. Baine is a traitor.
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Like Lor-Themar (2 times) and Rommath. But they still rule us.
And this is a game, not a real life war.
It’s also fantasy.
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Baine is a traitor to Sylvanas, yes. Baine is not a traitor to the Horde however. The Horde is a lot more than just a Warchief. Sylvanas isn’t the first Warchief who acts out of line to merit dissent, as there was Garrosh and long before him Blackhand.
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He’s been expecting you.
No.
Thrall fought hard to establish peace with Alliance, where there’d be no war.
We don’t need a warmonger warchief.
We need someone like Baine, with a seasoned warrior like Saurfang by his side in case something escalates, not a genocidal maniac who wants to turn everyone to undeath to avoid dying.
Her fear of death drives her to any goal she sets, and she’ll go to any means necessary, throwing both Alliance and Horde alike under the train.
If you compare her to Arthas, she seems like a cheap rip-off at this point, her goal was killing Arthas, she failed to do so, now she’s going down the similar road, but she isn’t nearly as interesting of a character as he was. She thinks she can do whatever because she’s warchief and everyone should obey, all the cunning she had is gone, just arrogance is left, and arrogance breeds failure.
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Thank you.
Is Sylvanas justified in imprisoning Baine for treason? Of course she is! He freaking betrayed the Warchief and even killed some Horde guards! (Even if they’re Fosaken).
However, what Baine is doing is well within his character and is only protecting the very core of the Horde; Honor. It’s literally the stepping stone of what the Horde Thrall created is supposed to be. And Sylvanas is literally kicking that away because of her own twisted desires.
Sylvanas doesn’t care about the Horde, she never have. She has always been going with what she has wanted, she is just doing it completely open now instead of from the back lines.
No, after he (Arthas) died, she jumped off the Icecrown Citadel and died, because she had no reason continue living with her goal completed. However, she fears death after seeing what will happen to her (and her Forsaken) when they die.
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I love your reply. It says everything I wanted to say. Baine said something truly important: their world is dying and they fight for who is speed this process up. Above all of that is the greedy and cowardliness of both Sylvanas and Galywix.
Am I pleased with what blizz did to Sylvanas. - Of course not! She was cunning, twisted but without meaningless cruelty. Now she is afraid of dying for some reason and do everything to prevent it to save her own self.
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That’s what I said, she failed to kill Arthas herself, and after dying she’s so afraid of death she’ll go to any means necessary to avoid dying. She doesn’t care about Horde, even forsaken when she started stripping off free will, only one she cares about is herself.
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But she didn’t kill herself because she didn’t get to kill him, that has never been the reason. He was dead, and thus she didn’t need to continue.
To be completely fair, Gallywix is a goblin through and through, he is perfect as he is, just because he is pure goblin and greedy. 
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Never said she did it because she failed to kill him, just saying it was her goal and she failed to complete that goal, and after that nothing was left for her. For me, Sylvanas died in Icecrown Citadel.
in the halls of reflection…