1 Tier Set charge every 2 weeks means that I can’t play PvP at all, if I wanna PvE and vice-versa. At the same time I can only choose 1 vault piece a week too, so there is again extreme friction between these things.
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I don’t understand why its one or the other?
Also, the vault is just a bonus, an additional chance for loot. What makes you think it wasn’t thought through and that its random?
Why do I have to choose between using my catalyst charge on pvp vs pve? Why do I have to choose between picking a pvp vault and a pve vault? Why can’t I get both? The way it is, I either choose 1 for the next few weeks or I severely fall behind.
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Fair point, haven’t pvp’d in ages so didn’t consider the vault impact of that. It does kinda suck.
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I mean we can always get back to wait 8 weeks and get a charge every week…
The catalyst charge wait is not ideal but its better than what we had before. The reason for it being timegate like this because they want to keep raiding relevant at least at the start of the tier, because atm it is by far the worst way to gear up to high end ilvl.
As for PvP, you are getting a separate weekly bonus in TWW. They are removing the PvP braket in the great vault and replacing it with OW bracket, for PvP you will have something else as a weekly bonus but I did’t pay much attention during the Q&A. So PvP players that do PvE will get essentially 2 vault rewards.
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you are free to not use it at all, and make your game as it was without it, just don’t use it, that’s it, problem solved
no it’s you who’s problematic, another crybaby that wants more, more and more, you literally have to loot 1 piece of set to have 2/4 set and benefit of it, if it pisses you off so bad, go play classic where you had to get all sets from raid yourself
and no it doesn’t mean that, it means that starting one pvp or pve at beginning of season is more benifitical, if you do pve, then it doesn’t matter as you can get high ilvl set from pve anyway
though I think blizzard should reintroduce pvp set
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you are childish one here and the fact you don’t realize it makes it even worse, at this moment you are literally spoiled brat that wants everything tossed at him for free , talking about infantility - you still are the one that keeps just wanting more
to me only solution that could be made is reintroducing pvp tier sets, that’s all
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already told you, if you play pvp and pve at the same time its not a problem to get your sets from pve, you dont have to waste system that never was in game in first place anyway to boost your pvp gear
hold a mirror? im not the crybaby that keeps asking for more and more unlike you
give finger to a kid, he will want to eat your hand
trying to insult me now? ;') keep proving my point
IIRC they have looked into this for the next expansion and that PVP won’t be a part of the vault anymore.
So the vault is only gonna be for PVE.
As for the catalyst I agree that is a problem.
I hope they can make it like the upgrade system so that if you have converted one type of item, Chest for example, you can convert another chest piece free of charge.
So that way you don’t feel like you are missing out if you got a new piece that has leech for example, or feel like you need to hold onto the charge for a higher upgrade level.
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catalyst charges in general are terrible, especially in the beginning.
So do I catalyst my champ gear or hope to somehow get a hero gear to catalyst?
If you could recycle a charge, then I could understand but like this? nope absolute garbage design.
i catalyst a champ gear, then a hero gear in that slot drops and i cannot use the gear = gg design cool
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You want tier quickly do the raid. You want to do other stuff then you have the catalyst and vault don’t start crying cos it isn’t instant. Typical entitled “player”
He has a point. Why PvP and PvE catalyst isn’t separated? If in TWW the PvP is removed from the vault then the catalyst must be split between PvP and PvE each mode having a charge.
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Create additional characters that you only pvp on.
That’s what I’ve done for priest, I’ve got 3 priests. One collects the easier mogs, one I do pve and pvp on but I don’t put any pvp items into the catalyst and then one that I only do pvp on pretty much and it uses the catalyst for pvp.
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This tier is raid focused like hell. Several classes need to jump into the raid because trinkets and weapons are the most powerful pieces you can get this season.
Meanwhile m+ just grants super blant basic gear.
Additionally I have to say tier sets are annoying. I have just one catalyst charge and had no luck in raid. So I have 460 ilvl waiting in my bag that I can’t use because my sims tell me to not break the old set until I get at least 2 pieces.
It’s probably because if you could get both PvP and PvE items, PvE-tryhards would feel “forced into PvP” for the extra item, and the outrage about that would be horrifying…
All that does is force everyone into having to do both PvP and PvE in order to get two tier pieces a week. Big fat no from me.
I was interested to hear the changes for TWW removing PvP from the vault and putting it all on vendors. I understand PvP players don’t want to do PvE to gain gear any more than PvE players want to be forced into PvP.
Ideally tier just doesn’t work in PVP but I have no idea what they have planned other than what was announced.
Reminds me of the old days where if you wanted more than one spec you were better off running two chars rather than swapping between the two 
You’re not forced to PvP, if they make the tier set only active in pvp. If you think you need to cap a vault for veteran ilvl pvp gear, then this is a thinking issue
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