You only get conquest for winning
If you give open-world players acess to tier bonus you also need to put it on Warmode gear, otherwise it would be better to use tier pieces than Warmode pieces for those slots. That means you have to have it on PvP gear as well, otherwise Warmode gear in those slots would be much more powerful than Honour and Conquest gear in PvP.
The only way to remove tier from PvP without making everything a mess is to disable it except when inside Dungeon and Raid. But that means causals won’t ever get tier bonuses.
Ok I stand corrected, they care about winning but nothing past that. In BfA I had to do PvP for my essences, I grinded to 1800 (mostly carried by teammates), I didn’t want to improve, I didn’t want to continue playing, all I wanted was to get out, how is that good game design for me or the people that are stuck with me in the group?
They do that by not forcing you to get a certain rating. If you only cared about 1 tier piece, that is gonna be replaced by champion-mythic gear anyway, why would you push instead of filling your other slots first from M+, etc. as a pve player? All you’d do pvp for would be that one slot, if the creation catalyst gave 1 charge for pvp and pve each, because every serious pve player will have 2-3 pieces soon anyway. We are talking about reaching 2400 rating for a miniscule temporary overall ilvl gain. That’s why people feel “forced” and why I’d have to play 2 chars.
Quick question, pvp gear can be converted in the catalyst to a tier set right?
All I asked for is having 1 separate catalyst charge for PvP and PvE gear. If the early veteran 700 conquest tier set piece for the first 2 weeks is such a problem, idk. Having 2 separate vaults for PVP veteran gear should also not even be an issue anyway. It’s veteran gear. That’s from LFR. You’d grind so many keys until you filled that random vault slot.
Because that way you get 2 tier pieces, while PvE players only get 1.
Look I preffer doing M+, should I start demanding to be given an extra charge for that as well? Where exactly do we draw the line here?
Get 700 conquest and you have 2, if it’s such an issue. 700 conquest is quickly gained. The 2k M+ score is free anyway, and then next week you get 4 set as a pve player… Also, if you don’t wanna play pve, you can raid too btw. It’s nothing. So little effort and it’d enable people like me to play both game modes over the whole season.
But I don’t want to PvP.
So then don’t do PvP.
You are getting that next expansion. PvP is beeing removed from the vault and you will have a different weekly reward.
I don’t but if it gave bonus charges I would be forced into it. You see where this is going?
You wouldn’t be forced. You could just not do it.
Aha and it’s fair for a 2k rio player that does M+ exclusively, to be behind a 1k rio player who also likes doing low rated arenas (or where ever conquest comes from)?
Right now I have almost all portals of the new season. In my experience people, who play both game modes, are usually good at the game and enjoy playing their whole class… For you it’s like “Oh no, I have to farm 700 conquest” for high minmax, and for me it’s “Oh, I will be 1 gear piece per week behind staggering with capped conquest, and I will need 4 weeks for 4 set late in the season, so I either don’t play, or I make a 2nd char of my main class”
Life isn’t fair. If you needed a video game to teach you that you have had it very easy and am I happy for you.
But this isn’t real life though.
Great good for you. Doesn’t adress anything I said though. Are all PvP players higher than 1200 rathing? Are alll M+ higher than 1000? Do you think that the players that aren’t don’t cross over at all?
What is it then, the Matrix?
A video game.
That exists not in real life?