I have played the game this way for years, I am extremely vexed that I can’t any more. Please bring 30 days back. I like to pay for my sub with a token but sometimes I want a couple of weeks break, so I buy a token, convert it to £10 balance, then when I want to come back in a few weeks I buy 30 days. I’d never get to actually play the game if I had to spend all of the time I have to play it grinding enough herbs for 2 tokens.
such hatred of people who voted brexit. and with no justification. sure, like everywhere, there are some idiots who voted out because they are racist or other similar reasons, but most people i know and have talked to voted for totally non related reasons.
- that non elected people were calling the shots in uk.
- that criminal law could be overturned outside the uk.
- that the EU (the institution, not the continent) is inherently corrupt and is not fit for purpose.
- and of course some people wanted their fish O.o
in fact many of these people were and still are pro europe, they are just anti eu.
and the uk is not the only country who are tired of the eu. surveys done recently have shown increased numbers of people wanting their country to leave the eu. after uk, italy was 2nd, france was third, and surprisingly to me, germany was 4th!
its like all these people who take actual glee at any misfortune that the uk now experience are just spewing what their local news network is saying.
remember ireland being told to vote again when they voted against an eu measure a few years back? “you voted the wrong way, now go back and vote again”.
most people i would wager (and definitely everyone i’ve talked to on the subject) have nothing against the continent of europe, the countries of europe or the peoples of europe. they only have issue with the political body of the eu, and what it has become.
the eu was a noble idea birthed from the horrors of ww2, to ensure that the nations of europe never go to war again. but like always, some fat greedy people have stuck both trotters in at the trough to take as much money as they can, or use it to increase elements of power. if the eu had stayed as it was originally created to be, im sure no one would have the issues or concerns they do.
and maybe the uk was right? it has been like the eu and anti brexit politicians in the uk have being trying to punish people ever since the vote didn’t go their way. they voted for brexit.
so, the anti brexiters give the country a and say here you go,
brexiters: “no. that is not brexit, its a . we want brexit.”
anti brexiters: "well tough luck, thats all you’re going to get and we’re going to blame you even though we purposely got a
a sad reality born out recently at a dutch border (sorry dutchies, i had hoped it was french as i was originally told but the truth is always better that a painted lie):
not even letting the guy keep the bread
and actually on topic. i think this is a TERRIBLE move and had me seriously considering just quitting the game. i am still in two minds if i do or not.
this shouldn’t have anything to do with brexit or taxes or whatever you’re talking about above. the payment has already been MADE. the 30, 90 or 180 days playtime was coming out of blizzard balance. there was never any 30, 90 or 180 day timecards. as such, whats the difference in buying a £10 pet or a £10 30 day gametime? both are coming from blizzard balance, which has already been paid.
no, there has to be another reason for this which anti brexiters are ignoring because they are full of vitriol.
if what i said about the usage of blizzard balance is correct, and i can see no reason why it shouldn’t be, then we should look for other reasons.
personally, from TBC to WoD, i ALWAYS paid in either 60 or 180 day lumps. ALWAYS. however, since 8.1 or so, i have started paying only monthly, letting a few days or even weeks go between resubbing cause the game just feels in a bad place to me.
so, my theory based on my personal experience, what if more and more people are now only buying one month at a time and as such blizzard is trying to stop this?
and remember, a LOT of people may have dropped down to monthly payments cause of covid and lack of money. so if blizzard have technically increased the price by removing the 1 month option, does that show how blizzard thinks of the players, even during this time when thousands have lost their jobs, blizz dont care they just want the money.
another idea may be to reduce the amount of people buying game time with tokens, cause now you would need 2 tokens to buy non sub based game time (2x £10 = £19.98). or can you use the token to buy 30 days only still?
And when the pound crashed, did they lower it.
Hell no.
You’re costing yourself even more money then.
If a 30 day time card was £9.99 and a month sub £8.99 then that’s an extra pound per month you are wasting.
You can sub and then immediately cancel it and it will only take one month from you. When your month expires it’ll tell you and then you sub for another month and then cancel. Repeat each month.
Easy target. Our Watchdogs are toothless.
MMOs are still under the radar. Lockboxes only showed up due to EA and Star Wars otherwise they would be none the wiser.
They still take subs in GBP, they dont covert every transaction. In fact they probably keep it in a UK account and convert it to USD and send it to the USA when it’s time.
That isn’t true, the 30 days game time and one month rolling sub were the same price: £9.99. I know this because I did once have a rolling sub and paid £9.99 a month I switched to 30 days game time purchasable one month a time for convenience and reasons.
Yes but that isn’t convenient, people would forget to unsub and lose a lot of money, which is what I think is behind this move: push people onto rolling subs that they forget about and they still get money people don’t play. Britain and Canada are the monkeys in this experiment it seems.
It -used- to be the case that the sub was £8.99 per month, but that got changed to £9.99 for no readily discernible reason, certainly at the time it changed, a good while back now, long before all this Brexit nonsense was even suggested, there was not any economic instability to justify it…
I mean Blizz is an American Company, maybe this is revenge for 1812-1814…They love messing with Brits
I’m not gonna read all of this to see if this is mentioned but you can start a monthly subscription then cancel it and you’ve paid for one month.
Why do you need to convert the token to balance? Pretty sure if you don’t have game time and you have a token in your bags you can redeem it from the character screen.
Yup, that’s how it works. The token can even be on another WoW account (but same battle.net account).
So it is, I think I might be confusing it with Netflix…
If you forget to cancel it within seconds of renewing it you have bigger problems.
Why don’t you just… cancel it as soon as you buy it?
Which wasn’t a deal breaker, for the ones who claim they are not and that they were holding their noses, when they voted alongside them.
The rest of that Pro-Brexit rant appears to be straight out of the Farage manual of eye-swiveling.
You were warned this would happen…You voted for it…you won…now man up, own it, pay for it and stop complaining (and blaming foreigners, as usual).
It’s probably no coincidence that UK Fishing Rights are due to be renegotiated every year and the Irish Border renewal legislation appears to be on the same cycle as future UK General Elections… turns out the Tories realised that a bad deal was in fact politically better than no deal…because they can keep playing the xenophobic Brexit card at Elections, forever.
As for the supposedly undemocratic EU:
How many MPs have UKIP got in the UK… how many MPs has the Brexit Party LTD got in the UK… and how many MEPs did voters get for those two parties?
You have been stitched up like kippers by the Tories, now tug your forlocks to the Old Etonians who have taken back control.
It’s almost as awkward, as Farage polling less votes than a man dressed in a dolphin costume, the last time he ran for Parliament… and less votes than Diane Abbott got in one election, during his seven failed attempts to become a UK MP… Farage won’t be donating his sizeable EU pension for having the second lowest voting record of any MEP, to an English charity either…plus all his kids have EU citizenship.
Like I said, you lot have been stitched up, good and proper.
You do this, you lose me right here, right now. Do you know how much 1 month of game time costs here in Turkey? 1/3 of my rent! Not everyone is living in a $ or euro currency zone. Just go ahead and do it. This is the final nail in the coffin. Good luck. I dare you to go and try it.
Edit: I just cancelled my sub. I will watch this with a great joy.
Ermm. I’d calm yourself, The only nations being targetted by this discriminatory policy are the UK and Canada it seems.
Turkey is not as of this moment effected by what would be, not a racist, but a Chauvinist policy
1/3 of your rent? Ouch.
In all honesty, I wouldn’t be playing the game if I was in your situation (not saying you shouldn’t).
But yeah, they are pretty bad with local currencies, even just the Euro situation with one price for the entire region hurts a lot of people that aren’t coming from the richer countries.
please point me to the part where i am blaming foreigners? again, you with that response show how actually intolerant you are. you assume that everyone who doesn’t agree with you is “insert ism/ist”. also, you assume that everyone who votes a certain way fits into the mainstream narrative of that position. you probably think all irish are drunks too. or that all football surporters are hooligans, or that all blacks are criminal, or any other incorrect sterotype.
from how you’ve replied, its people like you that have caused such divisive people to attain such positions of power, then think that your side are the heros for fighting against them. you mention abbot and your dislike of the torys. do you really think labor are any better? have you not seen any of the car crash interviews given by abbot as you brought her up?
no, people like you (portrayed in your comment) are one of the bigger issues throwing petrol on the raging fire of society atm and keeping us all at each others throats instead of just getting on.
cause its in most peoples nature to get on. some just want everyone to get on how THEY want, and shout loud enough to drag us all through this mess.
have you ever been to a ukip meeting? a friend of mine went years ago. they are mad and a bit racist if those members who attended are anything to go by. i mean, proper looney toons. would you know this? i doubt you’ve been to one of their meetings. you just go on whatever the media is feeding you it seems. again, where did i ever say i supported either of them or anyone who share their values?
thats about the only thing you’ve said which is true. doesn’t mean it was the wrong way to vote. just means both political sides never had any intention of actually pursuing what people asked for, nut and sane alike. but unlike you, i dont believe that one of them will “save us”.
Your rent is equal to £30 a month? That’s cheap. Mine is a hell of a lot more than that a week.
No, it is not…that’s called gaslighting.
So, you criticise me for the characterisation, then admit it’s accurate…strange hill to chose to die on…
I know people who identify as much more Right-wing (EDL, BF, etc) as well as the average Kippers.
So yes, I do know precisely what their real opinions are…Don’t assume that just because I oppose those opinions, that I do not do first person research.
never thought of that lol
Aha, simple enough
I think it is fair to say that whilst not all Brexit Voters were racist(Which they were not) all racists will have voted Brexit, because of its implication.
You’d have to have been a child of the 70’s or 60’s to notice it. Old Graffiti from forgotten and disbanded racist groups cropping up again after the Referendum, actual overt racism on the streets (Yes I have seen that, and intervened in it)
You can’t say there was not a racist undertone involved in the referendum, especially when in the lead up to the vote, one of Farage’s main backers said something that…I can’t actually repeat here without breaking the CoC.
As a Half irishman I can confirm we do like a drop of the creature now and then, but are not perpetually drunk.
Nope, but the percentile of those who get that tribally invested into something like a football team is higher than those who do not. Of course they’re not all Hooligans.
Interesting choice. If You’d said “That more blacks are criminalised” you would have been on the money. The rates of convictions based on skin colour is higher, than white offenders accused of the same crimes. So no, by no means are black people predisposed towards crime. They are however more likely to be convicted of a crime, than a white criminal accused of the same offence.
You Won, Get over it. Stop complaining now that it is all going downhill like everyone said it would. Also, my local Hospital needs some cash, Where is this £350 million a week we were promised?
I actually know someone who is a UKIP Councillor. It is a tense situation, her husband -is- a racist, and he and I have -definitely- fell out. (Because he is a racist douchecanoe), she is not herself, and I have had lengthy conversations with her trying to understand how she can reconcile representing a party with known racist connections.
Even she recognises that yes, the UKIP Party have some incredibly unpleasant elements within it, who are racist, some are also sexist and refused to take her seriously as a candidate because “She should be in the Kitchen!”
I think you’ll find the Media is pretty on the nose when it comes to how they report on UKIP.
The whole Brexit problem is that we were sold a dream, half the people went “No, that isn’t what is going to happen” Half went “Yes it is, you just have to believe in it” Then it went through, admittedly during the worst conceivable time for it to do so, a Global Pandemic, however the actual problems it has caused, are nothing to do with Covid.
The crying shame is that if people go “Well come on then, we were promised some benefit out of all this” the faint hearts and idiots who championed it can go “It wasn’t Brexit! It was Covid!”
Which in most cases simply is not factually correct.
To be honest, Covid couldn’t have come at a better time for the Brexit Club, as now none of it is their fault.
Thankfully, Economists and Political Analysts are a thing, so when this all passes, will be able to go “Oi! You lied. This is your doing, not the Virus, now put on your big boy pants and take responsibility!”
Which is, lets face it, probably why the current PM wants to bail out of his clown circus as soon as he can…