Cheetah form in flying zones

I came to discover that the cheetah form will only manifest itself when you’re in non-flying zones. If you are in a flying zone, the Travel Form ability will automatically pick the fastest form, which is flying. I find this puzzling, because they are about to give us a higher res cheetah and we won’t be able to enjoy it because we don’t have the option to just directly shapeshift into a cheetah.

It should be like the treant option. It’s its own ability. Cheetah should also be its own. Make it so, Blizzard, so we can enjoy the upgraded cheetah properly.

You’d also be doing the RP community a service.

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I believe there’s an item in the druid Class Hall that you can buy at a vendor which separates the travel forms into ground and flight form.

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It only teaches you the “Mount Form”, which turns you into a stag because it’s meant to be mountable. You can’t glyph that ability or force the Cheetah form in any way, unless I missed something. I doubt it, though.

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Ah, I see. That’s unfortunate. :frowning:

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You can’t.

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“That you can’t, 'tis true,
'tis true 'tis pity,
And pity 'tis, 'tis true
—a foolish button.”
– Wm. Shakespeare (if he was playing Druid today)

They changed it - was it in WoD? - so that the separate forms are not under the players’ control.

All the time, the devs are making changes, because that’s their religion, their ineffable faith. If only they make enough changes, someday, one of them will initiate Nirvana.

Often, I don’t like the changes, but I can at least see why they made them.

This was one of the changes that was completely inexplicable, bad from all possible angles.

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Completely agree.

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I don’t know, they changed it a lot.

First it was about how convenient it was to have one button that adapted. So first they rolled in Aquatic Form to Travel Form. This I did not mind. I already had /cast [swimming] Aquatic Form; Travel Form so yea

Then they rolled Flight Form into Travel Form, and that was when I was like… huh. Okay then. I didn’t really like it but there was nothing I could do. But you could argue there is little combat gameplay reason to have them be non-separate so it wasn’t the end of the world even though it sucked. It really made no sense because you could just put in the flyable condition in a macro, and besides Flight Form belongs with mounts - it’s not a combat shapeshift form like Travel Form is.

Then they gave us a stag instead of a cheetah as originally planned. And that was great, and then Blizzard thought it could be fun if someone could mount the Druid - the idea that Druids could support other players by literally carrying them around the battlefield. Neat idea, not particularly useful, but neat.

And of course a whole lot of women got uncomfortable with the idea of being mounted because instead of thinking of mounting a horse or a spectral tiger they thought of something different, so then that was made into its own form. And, looking back at Blizzard’s history… maybe they had a point. I’m not sure.

So now, to make that still possible but not mandatory they introduced Stag Form so you can choose whether you want it to be possible for other players to mount you, but this is of course Stag Form so you have no transmog options like there is with Travel Form, so it’s a scarce replacement.

Then again maybe you want a mountable Stag Form that’s separate from Flight Form, in which case there you go.

EDIT: My God I’ve made a lot of typos here. One day it’ll be comprehensible. Promise.

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I know. It’s confusion. Camel = horse designed by committee.

There is nothing so stupid as a room full of really smart people, at least when no individual will be held accountable for the outcome. I’ve seen it again and again.

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One of the issues here is that Feral Druid duelling breaks. Running away in Travel Form is an essential part of it, but before you know you’ve rooted someone, run away, healed a bit, wanna run a bit more OOPS FLIGHT FORM CYA which obviously feels like cheating.

Flight Form is a mount. In fact I’d say the 200% movement speed Travel Form is a mount, too. Travel Form is a combat form.

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Travel form is both a ground form and a flight form. It makes you a stag/cheetah/whatever skin you’ve chosen in non-flying zones while in flying zones it makes you whatever flying form skin you’ve picked.

The other is called Mount Form and is always the original stag, which can be mounted by a fellow player.

Both the Travel form and Mount form abilities turn you into a mount in a sense, but at the same time not. Using the Travel/Mount form in BGs and such reduce the speed down to 40% only, but it becomes 100% ground mount speed and 310% flight speed in the open world, just like any other mount.

The speed of Travel Form even changes depending on whether or not you were in combat when you first shifted.

Like… honestly; it’s two different things. There’s a ground mount and a flying mount masquerading as an ability and then there’s Travel Form - the original 140% movement speed form that has since been buffed in various ways. These two spells share a button. They should not. The purpose is unclear and blurred and it needs cleaning up.

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Where do you get 200% and 140% from?

I don’t think making any major changes to how mounts work for Druids is a good idea. If you want it to be similar to other classes because you think Druids have an unfair advantage, then a debate could be had about a variety of other classes, such as DHs and Monks, both of which have ridiculous mobility. It is kind of a part of the Druid fantasy and mechanisms that you are able to shift to escape roots, as a signature and iconic power of the class.

The purpose of the Mount Form is to always have the stag available, because when you’re in a party with someone, they can mount you.

This leaves you with the freedom to choose whatever skin the ground and flight forms you want for the Travel Form ability, which cannot be mounted (Unless you pick the Dire Owl skin from the Druid class hall in Legion).

We’re derailing a little bit, however. This is not what the original post was about. It’s about giving us an ability for the Cheetah form so we can use it freely both in flight and non-flight zones like we can with the Treant Form.

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200% is the speed you get if you use Travel Form out of combat.

140% is the speed Travel Form gives in Classic, i.e. where it started.

I’m not talking about removing ANY of this. I absolutely agree with it but it’s immaterial. All I’m saying is that there is a button that should be split in two. That’s literally it.

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It is 100% ground speed out of combat and in the open world. 40% in instanced places, like BGs.

310% flight speed in the open world, if you’ve purchased the highest possible mount speed, that is.

That is the Travel Form.

I know. Trust me.

I think you’re missing the point, but then again it never hurts to inform. :slight_smile:

EDIT: Got myself a ban till July but it was up for less than 10 seconds. This forum 0.O

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I once asked if mount form could be changed by glyphs and was told it wasn’t possible and that I should submit that as feedback ingame if I want any hope to have it changed.

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At least people can be made aware through the forums and submit it as a suggestion in-game.

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Aw, what a shame - I used to love that form. Wasn´t there a time, where it was even possible to swim in it? Or perhaps my mind is playing tricks on me - they changed it so often, I have lost track!

Perhaps it could get changed (again! :sweat_smile:) if they are working on a new model. All you can do is submit the suggestion in game - perhaps a few times or more. Good luck :four_leaf_clover:

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They really should let people have the choice, make it a glyph or some tick box.

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