Class identity and pruning what do you want back and why

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I personally thought ion being honest and upfront about going to far with pruning and class identity was great. It’s really nice to see devs starting to listen to us and actually admitting they made a mistake.

But what changes would you folks like to see, what spells do you want back what class dynamics or features do you miss?.

I personally miss 2h frost Dk’s and the way obliteration used to play so for me I’d love to see these return nothing says I’m a rune warrior then smacking somthing in the head with a 6ft blade :joy:.

What about you folks?

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One-handed fury because wearing two 2hs is lame.

More defensive cooldowns in my dps specs (arms & fury) because we literally have NONE right now.

A hot would be nice. old 2nd wind & Blood craze, because just like with the defensive cooldowns we currently have none. Warriors need self-sustain.

Stance dancing because it brought some form of skill requirement to the class.

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Someone once said you cant have competitve balance without pruning,and you cant have class identity and balance.Some where along the line they went to far with it,and i believe Mop hit the right spot for most of the people when we had it the best.Personaly for me an the shaman it was in wrath(totem bars),but then again i loved my pala specks all in cata,and hunter played the best in mop/wod.

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  • 2-Hand Enha Shamans
  • Gladiator Stance

And even if i’m not a fan of 1hand Fury and 2-Hand Frost, i find it makes no-sence if they reintroduce only the 2 i would see, so let’s put them into the list too

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For Priest I would like the glyphed version of Lightwell - Lightspring.

I loved the visuals, the design was rather unique and unorthodox, and it just sounds awesome.

They gave it to Anduin in Heroes of the Storm, as a talented ability. It really does embody the Holy Priest fantasy, and I love it there too - pick it all the time. :yum:

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As Mistweaver, my mana regen, and all my fistweaving talents being viable instead of just the “kick for mana” row? I end up switching in and out of that talent a lot, depending on whether the encounter gives me the opportunity to melee.

My Fists of Fury stun as Windwalker. My ability to freeze a whole pack in dungeons was what made me worth having on the team. Now I’m just another tepid dps with mediocre one-mob CC.

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Hellfire because it looked absolutely amazing and was even used in a cinematic and Summon Doomguard because WHY WOULD A SUMMONER SPEC BE UNABLE TO SUMMON A DOOMGUARD EXPLAIN TO ME

and the entire metamorphosis gameplay but that isn’t ever coming back because blizzard are incompetent and disgusting

omg also the shadow version of Halo for priests and it’s old animation -_-

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Pre-Legion enhancement shaman, with it’s greater number of totems and elemental spells and no stupid faux-rage resource.

Pre-Legion subrog, with old sdance, prep and all that good stuff.

For arms warr, stuff like charge stun, intercept, enraged regen, intervene etc.

Old DK rune system.

There’s much more but those are my most wanted off the top of my head.

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Ranged sv…

Also the classic wow hunter pet system

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Exactly the same because we are still locked with the Imps, while we tecnically at this point should be the master summoner in the whole universe (of Azeroth), we even enslaved the Eredar Twins…but yes, let’s stick with the Imps because yes XD

I have to say that i enjoy most the actual Demonology Lock instead of the old MoP one, but that’s probably because i see it mostly as a summoner instead of becoming a demon itself.

Now…can i just go away from the Imps and summoning instead all those fancy and friendly demons we seen through the entirety of the Legion expansion cycle wich we didn’t even get a glyph to be able to summon them? Plz? Thanks

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I want mop survival hunter ans spriest back.
I want legion arms warrior back.
I want wotlk unholy dk back.
I want mop shamans back.
I want wotlk mages back.
I want professions back.
I want paladin’s REAL blessings back.

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I’d like us to go back to when specs weren’t forced into either 1h or 2h weapons but could choose which they wanted. If someone wants to play 2h Frost DK / Enh Shammy they should be able to do that; Likewise if someone wants to use 1h weapons for fury instead of Titan’s grip, they should be able to do that too.

Removing player agency almost never makes a game more enjoyable, least of all when it’s an RPG.

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U might wanna open your spellbook in that case.

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Pre-WoD Priest, whole package.
Pre-WoD Hunter, whole package.
Pre-WoD Rogue, whole package.

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Well I really really really would love to have some form of stance dancing back. I think it made the warrior have a very unique play style and so hugely added to class identity. Don’t want to be stuck in defensive stance all the time. (And yeah I do remember the times when many warriors were crying about how it put our class in a disadventage cause you lost a global etc. :P)

And maybe Heroic Strike. I thought it was a unique and fun ability.

And more utility in general. My vanilla memories are vague but if I remember correctly, I could use demoralizing shout and disarm and thunderclap to help my dungeon group. Currently we have fear and rallying cry which are nice of course but I would really love to have more of it.

And eventho gladiator stance was not my cup of tea, I thought it was excellent, tho I imagine it could be a nightmare to balance. Still I hope developers consider it.

P.S.: This is not about pruning but please please please get rid of the idea of a warriors main damage dealing ability being deep wounds. I want to hit really hard mortal strikes and heroic strikes and slams, like in old days.

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Not sure, I am 2 expansions old. So for me that would be only new things :slight_smile:

But on the top of my priest wishlist:
Ranks on spells, so you can decide how you use your mana and tweek your way of healing.

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Yes 2h Enhancement and Frost DK. Windfury totem for Shamans.

Flavour spells like Track and Turn Undead and Divine Intervention for Paladins-- they should also give them Kings back and have all three buffs for all specs.

Disarm should be part of a Warriors base toolkit, and so should Sunder Armour. Bring Mocking Blow back.

Mana should actually serve a purpose to Fire and Frost Mages again, and give them Evocate back so there’s actually some strategy to managing resources.

Let Paladins and Shadow Priests be mana batteries once again to give them raid utility.

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seems like i understood his intentions differently then you guys.

what i am afraid of and how i understood they will do even further homogenization of all specs into 1 basic form of “class” and then on top of it there will be specs “flavour” spells.

at least thats how he explained it.

for example for hunters there will be the “core” of hunter specs with extra 'talents/abilities" that specialise it further for each spec.

for me it seems even more boring.

wonder where in his words you found “we will go back to old way how classes were”

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I would love to have my totems back… all of them…

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Would really like to get the blessings back up for all the specs ,also return my hand of salvation and hand of purity and Holy power for PROT spec ,seriously losing holy power as a resource just made us really boring to play.

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