Class Tuning Incoming – 20 December

Someone explain me please why DH singletarget dps nerfs continue? We are just a little above median already.
Could we please get a little buff on Chaos Strike at least?

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Gotta love the trashtalk, when obviously you don’t play ret, or if you play it, and think it’s easy, then you’re a horrible and mostly useless ret pala.

Go on, and play competitively with it. I’ll watch, as you have track your auto attacks for crusading strikes to know exactly when the second one will land for that HP gain, and manage your rotation in such a way that you never overcap, and also track the timer on divine resonance during burst which hits every 5 seconds and also gives 2 HP, and make sure that expurgation never falls off before your judgements hit, or otherwise you’ll lose the value from your 4set, and since you’re a paladin always keep your eye on the raidframe, analyze the situation, and use your BoP, sacrifice, freedom, and lay on hands, or if the situation is very dire and your healer is dead you might need to go for full off-healer role, spamming WoGs.

Suuurely BM hunters are more complicated… Good one bro, go and tell your jokes to someone else.

Btw 3% aura buff is basically nothing, at 200k base dps it’s a 6k increase, so we will stay at the bottom.

Sorry you find it hard, thats not my problem.

But you’re right, a 3% buff is meaningless but ret isnt the only one that should be on the receiving end of any kind of buff and ret isnt the only spec struggling.

Bro you are 367 itemlvl with 0 m+ raid or pvp progression. What are you talking about? :smiley:
Also the previous nerf and this current planned one are laughable when they spec is 20%+ ahead of everyone else apart from ~3 other classes like rogues that are on the top with you DH.

Fury, BM, both Druid specs, both DK specs, Enhancer, all 3 rogue specs are above DH. Again, I’m talking about singletarget. If they continue nerfing this way (while buffing other classes), DH will touch the bottom in a month.

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Both DH specs are in the meta right now. I’ve been in some Heroic raids where they’re just dominating the DPS metres.

In Heroic raid the statistics are even worse for DH.

You haven’t done any heroic raids. Or any raids at all this expansion. I, however, have.

With people who cannot play their classes very well. The statistics exist, you can see them, and DH as far as raids are concerned is fine.

You argue like these guys glueing themselves on the street. I have several DHs on different servers plus I can read warcraftlogs.

I was in a heroic raid where we had about 5-6ish DH’s and they were all in the top 8, along with the assassination rogue we had and another spec which I forgot. All of the DPS were doing good DPS, but DHs were just above the rest.

That’s nice and all, but, well how do I put this?

Looking at a picture of a mountain, and seeing the mountain for yourself are two wildly different things. Also, just because you have multiple DHs doesn’t mean anything and is a really weird point.

You are just talking nonsense. Shall I explain you how to open warcraftlogs dps charts for Volocross for example?

No, I’m reading them right now. And guess which spec is currently sitting on top of the ‘All Stars’ DPS?

It’s even almost 20 points higher than the second which is BM.

All stars is a spec by spec ranking. It has zero baring on the performance of the class, just the player within the class.

It means that DH has the highest rank average for his spec of any other DPS for their spec, it has no indication how good their spec actually is.

The closest to a bread and butter single target fight the current raid has. DH is doing fine but not excessive on either difficulty.

And on a fight like larodar with adds it’s a strong choice but not pulling ahead in any way.

Better select 99th or 95th percentile. DH is super easy to learn for beginners. When it comes to maximizing dps the gap gets bigger.

I’d rather avoid small sample sizes and excessively short kill times from Mythic guilds doing their optional heroic reclears.

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So we’re comparing heroic, not mythic.

I made a mistake because I talked about DH being topish when I looked at mythic DPS, when I should be looking at HC. So my bad for that. Heroic DPS is all over the place, but in about 50% of the fights, Rogue is completely dominating.

Honestly, it has less to do with actual DPS, and more that this raid favours melee compared to range, that DH is one of the easiest specs in the game, and the fact there are more of them.

Warcraft Logs can tell me whatever they like, but Blizzard wouldn’t have nerfed the class if it wasn’t really good.

I linked both.

The nerfs are almost exclusively targeting the spec’s AoE talents and builds, not single target. You’re the one who went on a meaningless tangent about some DH’s in your heroic PuG doing a lot of damage compared to the rest of the group.

To me, all 4 say “Mythic Amirdrassil”

As it looks like I’m the only prevoker player to comment so farm, I’ll say I’m really glad Resonating Sphere affects 5 people again. It was weird not affecting your whole group in dungeons.