Class Tuning Incoming 2 November

Im playing hunter. I think I should go with safe choice, rogue.

  • Amplifying Poison - Mutilate damage bonus increased to 35% (was 30%).

This is incorrect right? suppose to be Envenom?

OK i read it and literally can’t believe. Do shaman deserve nerf? Yes no agree with that. But 25% is not nerf. They literally killed it. From current state (3 spec overall at Raid performance) landed at rock bottom. What is the point of it?
Its like forcing people to play what Blizzard want us to play not what WE want. And the worst point is I am paying for it…
"Oh sorry but you wont be able playing whit this class/spec cuz is complete garbage. Have you tried lock or maybe blance druid? Or try with new brilliant class which we prepared just for you? Because you definitely don’t know what is good for you… "

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This nerf seems to be a little over the top. I would agree that enhancement needs adjustment, but from what I saw and tested myself, I felt the nerf would be hitting somwhere between 10-12%.

25% feels a little disconneted from the developers and is in my opinion hardly justified.

Any kind of clarification for this decision would be nice.

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why not also increase the damage of the Restorarion Shaman?
He is the healer with the worst numbers right now.

Rip: Enhancement

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When has Shaman overnerfs ever been revoked? They seem to perform relatively well in betas and they get absolutely removed from playing the game.

The least defensives in the game and still not allowed to be at the top of dps. EVER. There has never been a time in Wow where shaman were top performing except for at the end of an Xpac where nobody cared anymore.

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You ask me something I can’t answer.

Exactly my point, they have never buffed shamans to anything other than being mediocre.

All our Aoe is hard target capped and we aren’t even top performing there with other classes yet they literally cut 1/4th of the damage off the spec in its entirety. Make it make sense.

Blizzard is completely incapable of reading data. There is classes almost 40% higher in dps and they remove us from playing entirely.

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Enchancement shaman with no raid buff and no damage. I guess we will skip a raid tier. Feels like if ench shaman doesn’t have damage it becomes a WFT buff for warriors

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  • Enhancement
    • All damage dealt reduced by 25%.

Kick off the Day of the Dead event strong by killing off Enhance…

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Revert this bs change. U cant just change the flow and the whole gameplay of a spec in the prepatch without proper testing and redesigning the spec. This is just unacceptable… Pathethic devs

Where is the Retribution Paladin nerf for the crazy 40k Judgements?

Well i did some testing on the pts with the 25 % nerf for enhancement.

Now the spec pulls about 35k st, and about 70 k on 4 target cleave.

Is this the level of damage they want to target? Or are they just clueless? Either way i am disappointed.

70k is lower than many classes that don’t have any form of aoe target cap, or classes that have soft caps, this means that enhance aoe is strictly inferior.

35 k single target is nothing impressive.

And if this is the damage they want to target i am disappointed, that’s just about 35 to 50 % higher dps than what we are doing right now in shadowlands. It just feels a bit underwhelming. Gameplay is king, which was indeed improved, but doing just about 35 to 50 % more damage after 10 levels, and a massive ilvl gap, just doesn’t sit right with me.

Anyway, if the target is 35k single target, expect a lot of nerf in the next few weeks for many other classes, if it isn’t, then it means that blizzard does not actually have internal testing, and they just do whatever they feel like based on reports from people who probably have no idea what the hell they are talking about.

The general quality of testers on the pts… Is just not very good, let’s just say that. I’ve met some real troglodytes there.

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everyone just complains about raids and dungeons but the game has pvp too if u dont know lol the enhance shaman was oneshotting everyone in pvp doing like 50k a hit

As i said in another post.

Pvper completely lost my respect after they collectively asked for the removal of templates, which would have solved many of these issues for pvp, or at least mitigated them greatly.

So as far as i am concerned pvper can just make themselves scarce. I don’t give a rat’s a… what they think.

i did take a read about these templates u talking about and im glad they did remove them because everyone would have same gear no sense of progression or customization so whats the point of playing a mmo? if u want to play competitive play damn counter strike. i want the ability to choose how my character plays, and the talent tree of the last update is a good change u get different skill build on the same spec

You could still do that, the templates would simply level the playing field, by basically lowering the importance of gear, it would also make it easier for blizzard to balance certain classes by changing the template. Lowering or increasing the damage of the template, adding or removing health etc.

Anyway it’s clear that you don’t actually care about pvp balance, you want to stomp people with worse gear.

And this is exactly why i don’t give a rat’s a… about your awful opinion. Get all the 100k elemental blasts in your face as far as i am concerned.

Thank god that people say that pvp is the ultimate test of skill, and that they want a balanced game, but everytime they do something to remove variables like much higher gear, they always complain about “progression”.

No one believes your bs dude, just get out of here pvp andy.

You could still do that, the templates would simply level the playing field, by basically lowering the importance of gear, it would also make it easier for blizzard to balance certain classes by changing the template.
well u upgrade gear based on ur current rating and pvp is not overpowered some pve gear are better than 9/9 pvp.
i dont stomp on anyone i cant get past 1.8 rating because im still learning but whatever have a good day

The problem is this, you can have gear have some impact, for example, even with templates it still did have some impact.

What you cannot have is balanced pvp, where it’s a contest of pure skills, and gear having a massive impact, those 2 are mutually exclusive.

How dare you reduce the power on the classe I like! Do not! Only reduce the power on the classe I hate! Chiara