It is now. But only because it can do double the damage as any other healer.
Lower the damage to normal levels and it wont be as attractive.
Yeah sure. Like we had 85% of resto shamans last season 
Every spec outside of the meta is dead. Does not mean we need to remove the other specs.
Coincidentally when we were meta it was when MW did similar damage. Kinda proves my point here.
Also. Why are you so extreme? You insist that I want to delete MW monk and I dont. I want to leave it as it is. And put the rest of the healers on par with him.
Why do you have such a problem with that? You prefer nerfs to MW monk?
I prefer to buff other healers.
But think for a minute what would happen if they doubled the damage of Shaman DPS spells. That should put us “on par” with MW monk right? Think again. Because if we do that damage with 1 lava burst and 1 healing rain. Imagine the RShaman that manages to cast 2 of them ! Then WE would do double the damage.
You cant balance that out. No way. There is only 1 way to do it, while simultaneously maintaining class diversity.
No you want to remove the whole playstyle. Of both mistweaver and disc.
That is quite extreme.
I think you would have such a problem with removing resto shaman too.
I never said that.
I said:
Give the rest of the healers UNIQUE (as in different than MW and DPriest) to do damage AND healing.
And I gave you a list of possible things you can do, NONE of them are even close mechanically to what MW and DPriest do…
And I prefer A. 100%.
I am sick of repeating the “3 healing == 1 free off GCD offensive spell that returns mana” and vice-versa for RShaman…
That is FAR from deleting MW and DPriest. I dont know where you get that from.
And ON TOP I give reasons as to why mechanics like this are necessary. Because otherwise balance is impossible to achieve.
Yeah i am sick of repeating that you can not compare per GCD. You just can’t.
And i do not want to be every healer a disc priest.
You remove class diversity.
I gave ton of reasons why it isn’t and why we do not want it.
Yes… you… can…
Zap does damage AND healing in a single spell. And its not he only one.
That dosent exist for the other healers. And it has consequences. I already gave you many scenarios of how choosing 1 GCD healing or damage is a risk you take. While MW dosent have it.
Are you reading what I said? UNIQUE.
You keep repeating “class diversity” when its false. You would not loose class diversity. You would earn class depth for ALL healers. While maintaining diversity.
And that is true. For ST heals, for AoE heals, for Mana regen… things we ALL have. But we each execute in a different way. And those that do NOT have 1 of those elements (Holy Priest with AoE) they are in massive difficulty.
You cannot claim “loss of class diversity” when I can give you at-least 3 things we all share but somehow that is not “loss of diversity”. You get the elements in common with those UNIQUE mechanics for each class and extend that design philosophy.
No you cant. All your buttons are doing more than the mistweavers. You should have somewhere the left over GCD to throw a lava burst, which is also doing more damage than any damage button of the monk. Like RSK is 475k hit. Lava burst was previous season already doing 750+k.
If i want to single target heal i need to use 3 ramp up buttons, because of all the bonus healing modifiers. You just riptide into healing surge.
Our HPS are similar. They are not. It would be valid if you traded damage for healing. But then that would be incredibly unfair to the MW if he, and only he could not pass the healing checks.
Or if RShaman was the ONLY one to be able to pass the healing checks (like in S1).
And again.
I do. But each time I have 1 left over GCD its a choice I make. Lava Burst, or heal up that 70% party member to 100% in case he gets 1-shot.
A risky choice. You dont have to do that choice. RSK and you are gucci.
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When i need to single target heal i need to Renew mist (chi harmory +50% healing), soothing mist, envelop mist (+40% healing modifier), big Vivify.
You do not really seem to know how mistweaver works.
As if RShaman did not have 3 or 4 modifiers to keep track as well.
Its as if you dont know how RShaman works either.
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No, i just riptide into healing surge, GG.
You keep track of modifiers that are automatic. After x seconds and/or using mana you get big chain heals. Yeah, you also need WA’s to play your spec. Still need less buttons. Just place your totem for those automatic Chain heals.
And all of that at the safety of ranged! Swirlies? Spirit walker grace!
But sure. We just RSK. Which actually has a cooldown.
We actually stand there 4 times tiger palming doing absolutely nothing, because the group moved and we are not on our stomp which is also on cooldown.
Lets agree to disagree. I play Farseer by the way.
And none of this MW/RShaman comparison proves your point, or my point.
MW has options (A, B, AandB). RShaman does not (A or B).
And that creates problems. Like it or not.
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Even better. Just big healing surge since you got up to 4 tidal waves.
The problem is blizzard can not balance. Has nothing to do with doing healing and damage at the same time. Blizzard can easily nerf the damage of monk by 90% and keep the healing for what it is. And then somehow the shaman is doing 500% damage of the monk by just pressing a healing rain. I would be fine with it. Not a problem to me.
Look. If they nerf MW damage, WHY would you use Zap at all ? Just do this instead:
And then you become a regular “press healing buttons to heal” healer. That was the case for MW for many years.
If they buff RShaman damage to match, then RShamans would become “Battle healers” like in BFA. Doing DD dps with lava bursts.
There is no way to balance this out. And the “DPriest/MW” are meta discussion will never end !
The only way to make it end, AND maintain class balance is what I suggested. Its clear as day.
I use zap for the aoe healing cooldown. We do not press it for damage. It is the only ranged healing button we have. We get forced out of melee all the time in these dungeons.
Its an AoE healing cooldown BECAUSE 30% of the damage is tranfered to healing. Nerf the damage and then what?
Blizzard just nerfed the damage with 25% announced in this very topic. And now what? They buffed the healing modifier.
25% of 40% of your damage is a 10% damage nerf to a spec that was doing 100% more damage than everyone else.
Peanuts.
If you keep nerfing Zap then eventually MW will reach “the rest of the pack” of healers. Crummy 300k DPS.
And at those ridiculously low levels of DPS why bother at all with DPS then? You are back to “healing only” MW and fist weaving looses its value.
I know this is true. Because it happened before. It was the situation of MW for many years.
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yes. Make it 90%, like i said.
Yes. Make it 50k.
Just adjust the healing modifier.
(for the record, it is not 30% like you said. That is why we need our stomp. To heal actually something.)