Aah okay .thats good to know .
pff cant you just leave fire mage s alone
Protection warrior damage nerf is absolutely uncalled for. TOTAL BS
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I’m sorry, did they forget to add a 0 to renew or prayer of healing? This is not going to do much with a double digit buff, these abilities need 3 or 4 digit buffs. Like, renew ticks currently for 0.5% of my hp. With a 60% buff it’s going to tick for… 0.8% of my hp. Is this a joke? We have an ability on a 12 sec cd that heals for(at ilvl 640), after the buff, 250k over 15 seconds when people are taking hits in the millions.
PoH is going to heal like 170k per person, on a 1.5 sec cast. That’s 2.4% of people’s hp if they have ilvl 640. When people take damage in the millions, chunking well beyond 10% of people’s hp every time damage happens.
It’s insulting. You might as well remove holy priest as a spec if you have no intention of fixing it.
There is nothing to fix, as long as you guys live under the shadow of DPriest.
Shields, and Atonement are just simply too good. Compared to a HPriest’s kit.
More like real AOE healing, which is needed for the current dungeons.
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What about fury warrior being capped and doing very bad aoe damage in dungeons with big pulls?
See top 1 Fury warrior in this dungeon for example compared to the hunter. And with Dk/Druid it’s even a worse comparison sometimes 1 million dps difference. Do you want people to stop playing warrior or what’s the deal?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DGvt3M7TXQrCWZbV?fight=6&type=damage-done
Holy priests have no aoe healing. We need more aoe healing. Spammable aoe healing. That actually heals people.
We’re still going to triage with ST heals even after this buff because the buffs are too weak. They need to be at least triple digit for poh and maybe even 4 digits for renew since it now has a 12 sec cd for the useless healing it does. 250k healing that doesn’t even trigger our mastery on a 12 sec cd, lmao.
That take is lazy. Their healing depends on dealing damage to heal. That’s not consistent uptime. In high movement encounters or any fight with mechanics that interrupt your casting…your healing crashes. If you don’t ramp Atonement perfectly before damage hits you’re useless.
Holy priest has on demand bombs and instant panic tools like Guardian Spirit. You can react and recover from scuffed pulls. They dont rely on perfect ramp windows and doesn’t fall apart under CC or movement.
Disc shines in controlled setups. Holy saves fights when sh*t hits the fan.
Why are they being buffed? They are not unperforming, at least compared to other classes when you take warcraftlogs stats into consideration.
They actually are overperforming, and not just by a low amount.
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No, disc is just plain better because holy has no aoe healing. It’s a pita trying to heal as holy vs disc due to this. Disc just sends a radiance and penance and they’ve healed for 3 million(at ilvl 640) aoe from just the penance(9 sec cd) and like 2 million from radiance(15 sec cd). Then comes holy: Sanctify, 2.1 million(excluding mastery) aoe healing on a 45 sec cd, reduced by casting renews that have a 12 sec cd or spamming poh that doesn’t heal people at all.
UDK dodged nerf hammer like a matrix.
Boomie is already over-performing and gets more buffs.
What are these “tunings” 
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That is what I said. Atonement (AoE) PLUS shields.
And Shields are quite beefy. Something HPriest dosent have. And we (shamans) have to a lesser extent with Ancestral Vigor. Except that its 2 talents for us, and its baseline for DPriest.
Plus 3% DR on people with Atonement. Plus double PSup. Plus bubble… So basically a ton of DR.
Reactive healing is good. To a point. But the sheer amount of DR of a DPriest by comparison is mind boggling.
PLUS PI and fortitude. But Holy also has all that so… Not relevant in this case.
Some are intended for Raid. Others for M+.
Boomy buffs are intended for raid. Because its absolutely horrible in ST. That is what I have been told atleast.
That is literally everyone. RShamans included.
Every Caster on the planet (DPS or Healer) suffers from this. The only ones that get away with it (to an extent) are melee specs.
Shields are taken away this season though.
(rapture)
And atonement is not just for AOE healing. It is also for ST healing.
Holy does not have real AOE healing. That is the problem of Holy.
Power Word: Shield dosent exist anymore?
Its the “riptide” or “renewal” of DPriest. The thing you cast every 15s on CD… Vastly superior to both of those.
Sure. But even IF they fixed that, DR of a Disc is so powerful that they would still be behind.
I tried to play a priory on my priest earlier. First group I was holy in and people left after a wipe.
Second group I was disc. I forgot to even press pain suppression or barrier because I’m not used to playing disc. It was still easier to heal as disc even if I didn’t press those CDs. It’s ridiculously strong even without pain suppression or barrier compared to a holy priest, you have something like penance on a 9 sec cd, it heals roughly as much as a holy word sanctify(without mastery included), that has 45 sec cd, in aoe when you send it on the enemy and it has better range than sanctify for healing people in aoe.
I also did like 500k dps as disc while I barely licked 150k as holy because I could barely cast any damage spells. I don’t even know how to play a disc priest, it’s like a new class to me. It shouldn’t be easier to heal and deal damage on a spec I barely play vs my main spec that I’ve played since vanilla.
Lets destroy SP
Welcome to my world. And there you see why I complained about Attonement and Ancient Teachings. Because HPriest is not the only one in that situation.
In fact, on paper, you too could do 500k DPS. Just as the DPriest can. But you cant. You need to heal instead.
Healing is not just about the whack-a-mole with HP bars. DR has this fantastic attribute where things that should chunk 90% of someone health now only chunk 50%.
It would have been even easier to heal if you would have rembered to use those spells.
DR is so good in certain ocasions, that mistakes of people that should 1-shot them… dont…
The changes for Survival Hunter will hardly fix anything. It remains one of the weakest specializations in the game. We need more AOE damage for Mythic+.