Class Tuning Incoming -- 29 March

U give bm finaly something for us to get invited on M+ and now u take that from us im done if u really nerf again uninstall window. I dont play raid so i dont see why you put people who raid and people who not togheter on the same boat yes bm si good on st on raid but i dont play raid and? PLEASE DONT FK OUR CONTENT ON KEYS BECAUSE OF THE RAID !

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No fistweaving changes? Tbh it is worse than ret atm

Imagine me in a Red Shirt:
is this an out of Season April’s Fools joke ?

(i want to post a link from warcraftlogs overall statistics … not allowed tho)
you nerfing Bm overall by 4% and survival overall by 4%?
I mean ok you really don’t like hunters the bm nerf is justified cause you want them to be bad, they struggeling to survive in all situations but their damage is not good either, let’s nerf them.
And what had the 20 aktive survival main’s done to your parent’s that they get nerfed ?
How on earth can they beeing nerfed while beeing …(imagine a piece that comes out the bottom) the whole expansios ? They have literaly close to zero aoe and now you nerfing the only skill that does damage in single target ?

where is the nerf for shadow priests ?
for prot warris, rouges who standing on top of alle classes since the beginning of DF?
but you decided to nerf a class that you “fixed” by finally nerfing this stupid bow.
that you burdend with this bow for 4 month’s. To go back to the bottom of every ranking where they have to be.
To not struggle only to survive but to struggle to make damage ?
Doesn’t feel great.

BTW. love the pally rework! But pls nerf a bit of it’s survivability, form die throught everything to hard to die. i want to feel at leat a bit skilled while staying alive =D

Darkglare nerf is just plain stupid. Why buff it to a place where it’s good and feels like a proper 2min CD to just nerf it a week later?

Also, what is with the DK and SV nerfs? They just feel like those were done in the manner of “cus f you, that’s why”

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The ret heal and defensive changes killed the spec again. Must be a good feeling to destroy months of work overnight. Anyaway we can go back to 60k CS followed by a 160k MS as arms because its completely fine :slight_smile:

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Dear demo/aff warlocks! Today we coming back to B and F tier. thank you Blizzard for previous 3 days in 1st season m+…

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Warum zur Hölle wird Frost Dk generft? Spielen schon kaum leute und nun sowas… versteh ich einfach nicht.

BM was op on terros, average on everything else and bottom tier on m+

Solution? Nerf the f out of the bow and then nerf kill command.

Idk what blizzard are smoking but pls give some too!

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Dear Blizzard , you almost save hunters specialy bms , i dont play raids why nerf kill comand and fk our content on m+ ? Please don’t do that we are not meta and before the buffs we stay in queue for hours because people dont want hunters because they dont bring nothing to groups now nerfing kill comand we will do less dmg and we will stay again hours in queue because people want meta specs and this is not fun anymore . You want a bm in keys because of the dmg we bring nothing else why nerf kill comand ?? Please don’t put raid and m+ on the same boat !

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They “tried” to compete with favorite child → SP, sorry but Blizzard cannot tolerate this, SP is the big dictator and whoever tries to take his crown will be heavily silenced and shutdown, only the wife dictator - boomkin can come any closer to it.

Heil, SP!

So let me get this straight, you nerfing demo cause of “multi-target profile” so that’s like prio target+passive cleave from dreadbites and felstorm, but you don’t compensate by giving us more aoe even though its already not as powerful as destro warlocks, i’m playing mythic+ as demo 3.3k rio and when i compare that to destro uncapped rain of fire aoe+st dmg and funnel, its not even a comparison, this new changes of wildimp dmg buff was pretty good to increase our st dmg consistency, but now nerfing dreadbite and DC by this amount will just destroy our aoe, awhile letting destro warlocks be the only viable option to play in mythic+

And to add on that note you also didn’t fix pet pathing issues such as shadowmoon burial grounds worm boss, when dreadstalkers’s dreadbite+felstorm from felguard isn’t hitting the boss at all after he submerge the first time, leaving us to do tank dmg on the boss, and that’s not all, what about Odyn in halls of valor where our pets don’t get the dmg buff, only the mainpet (felguard) that’s just sad, theres no other way to say it.

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yeah and dont forget to buff fire mage

It’s absolutely crazy that you managed to release warlock on live realms with three gamebreaking bugs after being spam reported about them on PTR.

You then stagger fix the bugs over two to three days, and on the fourth day you claim you have enough data to nerf the class, no doubt by looking at data from the first days.

Do you have two separate teams working on bug fixes/class changes? Do you talk to each other?

I’m sorry, but this is an absolute clown show.

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The best part of the frost dk nerf is, its affecting pvp, too and unlike in pve charts they are near nonexistent in solo shuffle or any other form of arena.

So seems frost dk should be patched out of the game, hardly see people playing it seroiusly in endgame stuff. lmao

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Why is Frost DK getting nerfed in PvP? These nerfs should be PvE only, or specifically targeted at BoS. Frost DK IS the worst performing spec in Solo Shuffle (except for tanks obviously) and one of the least represented specs across all PvP brackets except RBGs maybe.

Same issue with M+, these nerfs should be targeted at raids only (where they are overperforming) and a simple and easy fix is to nerf BoS instead.

Also, Rets still globals people. Remove Blessing of Spellwarden from Ret’s PvP talent too, they are already the DPS spec with the most utility and peel in the game. No need to give them a full 10 s spell immunity too. That is beyond broken.

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Normally, I don’t write anything about patches, nerfs, buffs, etc. But I cannot ignore this. Why are you nerfing Demo for absolutely no reason? Demonology single target is not good at all, especially in a M+ viable skillset. Its damage finally felt good without this nerf and WITH the still bugged talents. Now that you have fixed the bugs, you are slapping it with the nerf hammer with a massive nerf to Demonic Strength.

With these bugs, Demo finally felt like it was competitive again with Destro and other top-tier specs. I think the bug fixes alone should bring it to a point where it is okay. If you nerf Demo that hard, it’s a dead spec again in M+.

Please stop forcing us to play Destro. I personally love the Demo playstyle, but I have to play Destro for higher keys until 10.07 hits because it was not bad in M+. Now, it is again viable for high keys, and you are instantly nerfing it after two days? Sure, the damage was a bit high, but still even with other top DPS. That was because it had two bugged talents.

Regarding the Grimoire nerf - if Grimoire does the same damage as the pet, you will never take it because

  1. It costs talent points,
  2. It is in a terrible place in both skill trees Aff and Destro, and
  3. Having the pet out gives more utility like purge.

And I can’t understand why you nerf SV Hunter, the actually worst spec in the game. Sure, their ST was great, but that’s it, that’s the complete spec atm.

Please Blizzard, don’t let this go live. Wait and watch the bug fixes.

Normally, I don’t write anything about patches, nerfs, buffs, etc. But I cannot ignore this. Why are you nerfing Demo for absolutely no reason? Demonology single target is not good at all, especially in a M+ viable skillset. Its damage finally felt good without this nerf and WITH the still bugged talents. Now that you have fixed the bugs, you are slapping it with the nerf hammer with a massive nerf to Demonic Strength.

With these bugs, Demo finally felt like it was competitive again with Destro and other top-tier specs. I think the bug fixes alone should bring it to a point where it is okay. If you nerf Demo that hard, it’s a dead spec again in M+.

Please stop forcing us to play Destro. I personally love the Demo playstyle, but I have to play Destro for higher keys until 10.07 hits because demo was bad in M+. Now, it is again viable for high keys, and you are instantly nerfing it after two days? Sure, the damage was a bit high, but still even with other top DPS. That was because it had two bugged talents.

Regarding the Grimoire nerf - if Grimoire does the same damage as the pet, you will never take it because

  1. It costs talent points,
  2. It is in a terrible place in both skill trees Aff and Destro, and
  3. Having the pet out gives more utility like purge.

And I can’t understand why you nerf SV Hunter, the actually worst spec in the game. Sure, their ST was great, but that’s it, that’s the complete spec atm. Please Blizzard, don’t let this go live. Wait and watch the bug fixes.

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DO not touch BMs they are fine! Do you hear me Blizzard? Fine!!

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Oh yes nerf BM Hunters , this is why i dont play your game anymore , spinning the wheel and we nerf where it stop’s ?

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Better Nerf Affliction (when was the last time aff was even seen in keys?)
FYI: I had no PI here whole run. Rogue is 3 ilvls lower than me, he also has 10.7 Ring, which gives him like 8% overall. That ring sucks for warlocks. Anyway…

  • Have you considered that rank 2 soulflame is dealing rank 1 dmg since prepatch for Dragonflight?

  • Do you know that SaC build path only works perfectly fine for Affliction and it’s also a “blessing” to play with, since you lose another button to bloat your rotation even more, which is pet’s purge?

I don’t care how some people who smell the opportunity to sky rocket their parses abuse that with bugged talents. I wasn’t even playing on WoW on wednesday. I am doing 22 keys and I am not feeling OP. I am your audience. There is 99k players like me vs 350 Flavour of the month players.
Can you stop making the game miserable for us? xD

Its also beyond me that I can’t post links on the forums even tho my account is crystal clear. Why there is no option to have screen attached, its 2023. I’ve been a mod on some forum around 13 years ago lol and we had that tech.
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