Class with highest Survivability(DPS,Pve,M+ dungeons)?

Imo: Ranged top 3: 1, Warlocks
2,Balance Druid
3, Mage ?
Melee: I dont play with melee .What is your opinion?

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Enhancement shaman

When someone is missing healths or shaman himself, then they are able to consume 5 Maelstrom stacks and can heal same amount as prot pala

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Have shaman but only play with elemental :slight_smile: What about Rogues or Warriors?

No way, enh shaman is historically one of the specs with the least survivability in general alongside hunters, healing is nice but it doesn’t stop incoming damage and you have nothing besides Astral Shift every minute and a half.
They gave them earth shield with 10.0.7 but it’s still not glorious.

Rogue specs have the highest survivability out of all melee specs for sure.

Warrior isn’t that bad either if you use defensive stance when needed in higher keys.

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Earth shield for Shaman have been a thing in many expansions

Also my opinion list for OP for Another specs :

Death knight

Paladin

Demon Hunter

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Not for enh no, it had lightning shield until the patch so far this expansion.

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I want to try rogue or warrior for new season 2 main.

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mage lacks passive defensives, i’d say 3rd one is shadowpriest or elemental. Mage is definitely not the 3rd one. you can heal yourself as others but with mage there are times that shield is not enough and ib on cd so you either use a potion or wait for healer to save you.

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Hhm.

Havoc is good, lots of self heals, so it’s very good for mitigating lots of sustained damage, but bad for burst damage, unless you get lucky with darkness and you don’t get one shot.

Ret pally, and enhance also have decent options. But enhance self heal comes at the expense of damage, unlike dh, dk same story, but better than enhance since death strike doesn’t cost your main resource to cast. And dark succor exists.

I would honestly say rogue in general. And warlock also has good options.

Good self heal, immunity, just really good at surviving overall.

The worst ones at surviving i would say are, mage, hunter, marksman specifically, evoker.

Mage has immunity, but otherwise, no self healing, bad absorbs, evoker, has mediocre self healing, and mediocre defense options, with no immunity, hunter has terrible self healing, for mm specifically, and 1 immunity.

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:rofl:

They are one of the squishiest in the game. “Dey can heal demselfs after taking damage” doesn’t make a class survivable - mitigating damage does.

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If demon hunters still have that leech during metamorphosis, then they are the ones

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Paladin is one of the best class for survival. You have many omg button.

But they are below medicore dps in most expansions.

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Obviously survival hunters, it’s in the spec name…hehe.

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Even higher than plate armor classes and feral druid?

I’m only familiar with Fury mostly and that would be yes in this case, rogue can cheat mechanics with Cloak of Shadows and Evasion, that’s partially why there’s always rogues in the top M+ players, that and it does good damage and has more utility.

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Yeh they do, just a shame the ability has such a long cd. So idk if it’s THAT great. As a dh dps I feel pretty squishy when outside of meta :thinking:

There is always Retribution with 2 immunities, 1 absorb shield and self healing.

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It is 1 immunity physical damage is not common in dungeons or raids.
usually there is at best 1 raid encounter in an expansion where it is good.
Rogue as an example can be immune almost 2 times for the cooldown of the 1 immunity of ret paladin with the talents to reduce the cooldown.

And self healing if you mean WoG healing that is very expensive self healing as it literally reduces your damage output by far more then it sounds on paper

Do not get me wrong ret is way more tanky now then they were before these changes but at least give real information.

Blessing of Protection can still make mobs leave you or someone else alone even if this does not work over magical damage.

As about the expensive self healing… you cannot deal damage if you are dead so even expensive self healing is better than no self healing.

Perhaps I am mixing memories of past versions of the spec but this does not mean I am spreading fake information.

Its rogues. Just Cheat death alone is legitimately an illegal spell and if you play a spec which likes versa you pretty much permanently have a 10% + DR

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