Classes and Item Tuning Incoming - 4 May

I was BM main, i swaped to MM, and then to surv.

BM is more fun for me than the other specs. but its so bad and unrewarding atm…
Im both a MM/surv noob as in fresh to the specs. still i do better as MM/surv.

as of right now when signing for 23s and higher i only tend to get inv as surv, so there is not two options as u say for me, there is 1 option. and a very boring option.

Surv is good no doubt, but its a easy and boring class. ur a melee that is range…
BM is a range that is melee tactwise, bm has harder rotation, bm is more punisihing if u dont do it right, and doing aoe as BM feels cool and reqs work to do.

Surv, kill command spam and fish for bombs and carve. like seriously surv is maybe the dumbest spec in whole wow…

And current MM. its aimedshot spamm dude. endless free aimshotes.

BM is the hardest hunter spec, and it is the most fun hunter spec and least rewarding.

4% buffs? That’s huge lol

AoE tuning for SV and Destro is still missing btw.

Don’t forget the Soulforge Embers Lego (especially pre-buff)… eye tic

It is decent if u do math not just whine on forum. The game has a lot of dmg modifiers now :nerd_face: :face_with_monocle:

Yep, but it was awful for a very long time…so I feel it’s fair that Survival is currently having its moment in the sun.

aoe fixed work for shadow still missing. Dots that does damage still missing.

Bm after the creepy buffs.

General Affliction feedback (Mythic+ point of view).

• 2-Set - Deliberate Malice - Malefic Rapture’s damage is increased by 25%…

The Malefic Rapture’s part looks to be tuned correctly, at the moment it is very competitive to Seed build and not overshadow it with damage. 25% Malefic Rapture buff should be considered as the baseline.

…and each cast extends the duration of Corruption, Agony, and Unstable Affliction by 2 sec.
It’s very welcome life quality passive, makes the flow more smooth for Affliction in AOE and put some value in spending shards outside of pure damage. Also should be considered as baseline.

• 4-Set - Calamitous Crescendo - While Agony, Corruption, and Unstable Affliction are active, your Drain Soul has a 20% chance / Shadow Bolt has a 30% chance to make your next Malefic Rapture cost no Soul Shards and cast instantly.

Most of the clunky part of the bonus set, the main reasons:

  1. Works with your filler spell which you don’t wanna press during your damage window.
  2. Very often buff overwrite itself with two Drain Soul ticks one after another which feels bad as it is a damage lose.
  3. It’s not castable during Drain Soul, when playing Necrolord it feels bad when you need to finish your Drain Soul buffed by Decimating Bolt, and during this time a multiple Calamitous Crescendo occurs.

In my opinion the 4-piece bonus should carry on with benefiting Affliction for spending and generating the Soul Shards and been coordinated with a DOTs damage same as 2-piece does.
Maybe as example:
While Agony, Corruption, and Unstable Affliction are active, every 5 Soul Shards spent summon a Nightmare Darkglare for 8 s, which makes your Agony, Corruption, and Unstable Affliction tick 200% faster.

Additionally from a M+ perspective there is a lack of good legendaries which would change the playstyle/rotation of Affliction in the M+ activities.

Still no Buff for arcane…
we are terrible in both PvP and PvE, please reconsider the 50% nerf you did to our 2-set, remove mana regen from the 4 set for clearcasting, give us a short stun (like dragon breast for fire) for PvP, etc… AND read all mage threads related to arcane that contain many, many, many good discussion to fix our spec…
It is now three expansions that Arcane is at the bottom, maybe one day you will realize that there is three mage specs and that we don’t want to always play fire…

blizzards focus atm.

Please buff feral AoE. It’s still the worst in the game by quite a bit and makes it impossible to get in 15+ pug keys. The last buff was not enough. We need help.

Honestly the nerf on the last days of the previous PTR was a horrible decision based on a famous streamer with bugs in. It now leaves us on this situation where we need buffs over and over. The damage was never OP outside the bugs. It was just right. Now we are having to race back to it.
It literally tripled the amount of work for no reason.

hope they buff shadows aoe too

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Stop discussing with this troll… In every topic he is speeching how bad BM is but how amazing and cool he is.
My raidleader is BM and is constantly in the top 3 of our raid… It isn’t in an ideal spot but it isn’t bad either, it merely shown on the bottom for raiding because alot of ppl with no idea or intrest play it :bear: (and it has almost no cleave).

i am truly amazing and a gifted player for sure, i am so greatful i am not like you, and all the love i get from most players, life is nice.

Btw a good bm can beat any bad player at any spec, that dosnt make bm good. it makes bad players bad.

After little of thinking, I guess to solve above problems could be:

• 4-Set - Calamitous Crescendo - While Agony, Corruption, and Unstable Affliction are active, your Drain Soul has a 20% chance / Shadow Bolt has a 30% chance to generate Soul Shard and make your next Malefic Rapture cast instantly.

Which does a huge difference from current one… so in general, while you casting Drain Soul / Shadowbolt you can generate multiply of Shards but instant cast buff does not stack and is overwritten with a new Shard.

  1. You are not punished for losing your “free” Shard value of the bonus when effect occurs too fast.
  2. You are not forces to use a “free” shard right after his generate.
  3. It’s opening a little more in the rotation possibilites, you can spend your instant Malefic Rapture one after anoher, or sacrefice it in order to stack Shards for new damage window.

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