How do you people envision classic +?
What are most important things you think it should be assambled of?
I would like slower pace,and BiS epics that last at least a year.
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Thanks Puny..How to transfer it there?
You should be able to edit your opening post and one of the options is what forum you are posting in.
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Done.Thanks again
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Definitely not Classic by heart. We have dedicated servers for Classic, and people looking for nostalgia can still hang out there, and they do.
However, a “Classic+” approach should be something new, while protecting the core values of Classic. Implementing some QoL changes from different eras of WoW and implementing fresh ideas like SoD, maybe a different take on the lore without changing the core of it. I dunno, focusing on something other than what we’ve seen so far.
I mean, there are many, many, many possibilities. We can all speculate all day, every day (and we do already), but let’s see what they are cooking, if they are cooking. I am getting bored of Retail and Classic. If this turns out to be something good, it will refresh my will to stick to the game I loved for 20 years.
In short, I expect something refreshing, something to re-fuel the fire that is about to go off.
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I’d like a super slow levelling cadence and I hope, though unlikely as it may be, it have a survival theme to it. I’m u sure as to how we would make WoW a survival game but I just think it would be really good. MMOs have stagnated for so long and Beta testing, youtube videos and min/max culture has eroded all fun out of the game. I’d like to see some of the retail components in the game, like Delves as I found them really fun because I know my ability and it isn’t hampered by the doom min/maxing and gate keeping community. I’d love a more meaningful housing addition. I love the retail housing but there isn’t a WHY? in its addition. The housing could tie into yhe whole survival element? Being able to have 1 character do all my crafting would be great (I do have an alt army but I find it tedious to play sometimes and doing the same content over and over gives me burnout). A better fishing loop would be good to, turn it into a mini game like other MMOs have done? I’d like to bui,d crafting stations in my house and trophies I get from content. Meaningful solo content would be wise with comparable rewards to raid content. This would be good because it would remove the feeling that gatekeeping is holding people back. I’d love to mainly do group ocntent but I have little confidence in any MMO community these days doing group content the way I like to do it, like we did 20+yrs ago (under-geared but still able to complete content).
Above all I just hope they put the RPG back into MMORPG. I’m sure I’ll like whatever they do generally. I’m not expecting everything on my list, and maybe that could be better? Perhaps I’ll prefer whatever it is they do, perhaps I won’t. Whatever happens though I’ll continue some gaming, whether it be WoW, the new Total War Warhammer 40k, Light No Fire, Star Citizen (if they every get the game sorted….), Valhiem 1.0 and Runescape Dragonwilds 1.0 are released early next month, so there’s lots of options.
Happy gaming no matter what happens….. 
EDIT: Im hoping the game is in a different timeliness also. Hope its in the future so we can have all the race/class combos and im hoping that they’ll be no raceial abilities/stats, so we can choose our race based on aesthetics. Or if there are racial stats, maybe we gain attribute points to spend each level so we can ignore the racials if we like and spend to boost what we really want our character to be. Eg Tauren racial has more health, but perhaps at end level we prefer more strength and the extra health would have had to have be put in along your leveling journey anyway, so racials only matter when you start and low level.
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Well I think that the post important thing is that they somehow need to make people communicate with each other like in classic and bring back the social aspect of the game.
It should not be classic at the core because this should be evolving classic warcraft we know but with (new locations, mechanics, expanded lore, dungeons etc.) something like turtle.
But the most important is the “MMO” feeling where you interact in live fantasy world and meet new people.
Just my opinion.
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I love this but sadly a lot of that responsibility rests on the shoulders on us players. With the amount of gold buyers and gatekeepers we have today, it’ll be a tough design choice and im not at all sure it could work. I’d love to be proven wrong here though, as I really do miss the fun group content can have.
I also think that whatever C+ is it’ll replace Classic, as im sure behind closed doors Blizzard are trying to find a way to get the Classic subscribers to purchase a game every few years li,e they do in Retail.
If I were in charge of Classic+, these would be its features:
- Combat would have the same pace as Classic/TBC, with it being more forgiving on mistakes but more punishing on recovery downtime. Ie. if you pulled 3 enemies you would survive more easily than in Classic, but you would be forced to spend more time restoring hp/mana after such an event
- Transmog would exist, but other players would have to manually enable the option to see the transmog of other players, and it would be limited to up to 50 other characters, not global.
- Combat interface would have everything Retail does that would make sense in Classic (for example the damage meter, cooldown manager, boss ability timings etc. would exist, but the Mount, Pet, Heirloom, Achievements etc. windows wouldn’t exist).
- Players would be able to change faction by a system similar to Scryer/Aldor, so yes, there could exist Humans Horde and Undeads in Alliance
– Which would eliminate the need for new race/class combinations for class parity among factions - All instanced PvP would be Gold vs Purple, not Alliance vs Horde, but PvE would still have groups be faction-locked. Overworld PvP would still be Alliance vs Horde.
- Banks would still work with the custom bag system, but their interface would allow to show everything in tabs of up to 98 items per tab, in order to eliminate the need to scale down the size of everything.
No way they are letting it happen, where they are actually selling faction changes.
Can’t argue with the rest; well, I can, but these are all personal expectations and are all valid. But if they are really going to answer the hype and cook it pretty well, I don’t think they will miss the monetization chance over it. So faction change is a bit sus, but the rest are understandable.
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Of course they aren’t, just as nothing in my post is ever going to happen. Which is why I prefaced my post with “If I were in charge” 
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Out of curiosity, would you prefer Retail WoW models and textures, or the old vanilla graphics for Classic+ ?
I think it have good potential for being remake/reboot of WoW.
Maintaining the core identity of Classic Era, yet with fully modern approach.
Not really “what if the game was made today”, but more like “what if we had today’s technology back then”.
Classic needs QoL updates, including graphical facelifts. However, as I like the graphical updates over the years, I didn’t enjoy how Disney-ish the faces have become… No need to turn’em into snow white cartoon characters.
For me, classic plus would be like classic but with the bugs fixed:
- Ossarian back in the right start place
- The horrific raid frame UI and can’t handle more than 4 or 5 tanks repaired.
- Weird pathing of trash before instructor Rav reverted.
Etc.
I would ask like to see removal of the buff and debuff limit and instant mail, and the scourge invasion event repeated on an annual basis.
I was just playing TBC Anniversary lately, after a burnout from retail rush… And that made me remember something I hated back then…
Mob tagging. I follow the restedxp guide, not that I have to, but I happened to buy them back then, and probably many people do that too, and famous leveling places (like STV) are so overcrowded; literally finishing a kill 10 of these, and even kill 10 of these, and collect 5 of these kinds of quests takes a lot of time.
I mean, I admit that I understand this way is more real and immersive for the “open world” feeling, but God, I hate this as well… I am around 35, and my hype is already over because of this. For the last 2 hours, I have been trying to kill 10 panthers and 10 raptors, if I can see any alive!
So, I hope they find a solution to that somehow. It doesn’t have to be as in retail but any solution to that would make me happy. This is silly to spend this much time on these kind of quests…
I like that,me and some other dudes doing our quests.There is like some kind of agreement,everyone kills spawns near them,we Split the mobs.Sometimes even talk with eachother.
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I’ve been watching a few YouTube videos this past week and one of them got me thinking…
It was a YouTuber mentioning the gaps that MMOs and Survival games fill in each of the genres. Well, i just had the thought that what if Blizzards Classic Plus is their old Survival game that they sidelined a few years ago? I’d be pretty hyped for that! Perhaps the Classic Plus doesn’t indictate a backwards salute to the old ways of WoW in its entirety but more that the concepts that went on to build the early Vanilla expansions… then they apply this to a new IP? It would draw in new people and it wouldn’t step on the toes of its any current subscribers iterations of WoW. All in all it could be the engine that drives WoW but with drastically changed assets? It could very much have a similar art style, so some assets are still used, like trees, rocks etc… im not expecting this to be the case or the few forum attendees to back this idea but, it does tingle me with a little excitement but then again im hopeful that whatever they produce, itl, be a good one.
I’ve got my sub until Christmas and I think ill need some major C+ new to drop before I sub again for another year. I’m currently playing Valhieim, Enshrouded, Runescape Dragonwilds (all 1.0 releases this month!) and learning guitar/bass with an eye out for Classic plus and Total War: Warhammer 40k news. exciting times! 
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I Play Enshrouded,Palworld,Dfo sometimes,FFVII Rebirth,and GW 2..Im gona pause from retail for idk how much.Will probably try classic + someday.
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Forgot to add Palworld, i got it last weekend and only played around d 10hrs so far. Its been better than expected! I won’t play Square Enix games as they started my FF14 sub without my knowledge for a year! I managed to get 6months back via my bank but SE refused to reimburse me despite me not playing it since lockdown! I’ve boycotted them since and had to change bank. 