Era is a graveyard, you can’t even get enough players to run an AV at prime time, there have been attempts to reinvigorate the old servers that are always short lived and unsuccessful. A handful of dedicated few holding on is not a viable game, it’s been on life support for years, since TBC Classic launched.
TBC forever would be the same but probably even worse. I don’t understand why people are so in denial about this. I logged on to ERA last night, prime time, connected realms and like 3 people in orgrimmar with no BG’s running.
Try the PvE cluster as well It seems Era servers atract PvE players way more than PvP players. Last time I did a BG was in OG Wrath for the What a Long Strange Trip achievement
The PVE cluster is worse than the PVP cluster, quite a lot worse. It’s only alliance realms like Firemaw that have any players, and BG’s are cross realm anyway so irrelevant here.
Oh, OK. I kow that Era is one big Battlegroup. I’m just trying to telll you why no BGs are popping in era. No interest for them, because Era players are mostly PvE players.
That’s nonsense. I played Classic prior to TBC, there were tens of AV’s running almost 24/7. Now you have the same old Rank 14 players queuing into WSG and nothing else, there aren’t enough horde players online to even fill an AV most times.
PVE is just as bad, across the entire region on the highest pop cluster (alliance PVP, Firemaw etc) you will be lucky to see 2-3 dungeons running at max level. I remember Razergore server during TBCC just prior to it being shut down, and it had more dungeons going than the entire Classic ERA, lmao.
At this point there should be era servers for Vanilla, TBC and Wrath with Cata era servers coming as soon as MoP Classic launches. Moving on from every era, or not, should be up to the player.
You’re entitled to your own opinion, and that’s fine, but there’s a few ilegal TBC/WotLK servers out there with 10k - 20k+ active people everyday for the last 8 or so years
I bet that if Blizzard released an Era (mega) server TBC and WotLK those people would move from those ilegals servers straight to the official (as long blizzard did something about bots, RMT, etc)
Those servers basically prove that theres a market for those expansions, that refuses to die
But why? Why do you want graveyard servers. Nobody plays them, that’s the problem, Blizzard is just paying to have servers hanging about empty and devoid. You can go on Gehennas right now, the only person you will see in Orgrimmar is me. You can go on Mirage Raceway, much the same.
The only people playing ERA are a small group of alliance players on the Firemaw cluster, spanning many servers combined. It’s every bit a dead game, and yet next week you will see many thousands, maybe 100k + show up for fresh anniversary launch, which will go to show that stagnation is the killer, and forever servers never progress, they just die.
Even by the looks of Warmane p-servers alone you are wrong here. They have many thousands of active players, both on the progressive side with vanilla->tbc->wotlk and same with their 10+ year old wotlk server. Or so I have heard…
So obviously there is a huge demand for TBC and WOTLK-content. And Blizzard isn’t providing it. Giving us 1 year of TBC or WOTLK then trashing it all into Cataclysm doesnt suffice for alot of people.
I’d hope Blizzard would provide the same progression server: vanilla->tbc->wotlk. And providing the option to move to either tbc- or wotlk-era servers. I bet they would thrive seing how many people there are on different p-servers.
Wrong, this is the 2nd TBC Warmane private server that they just launched, the previous one in 2017-2018 which they ran 2 versions, a “hard” realm with slow levelling and a standard realm with faster levelling to 60, named Outland. Outland had about 15000 players+ in phase one and after Sunwell was concluded it died a hard death, ended up as a ghost town until Warmane closed the server.
Don’t try to use private servers to side step me, I know more about them than you do.
Sidestep? Nice argument calling on authority instead of providing an actual argument. Really bad attitude dude and everyone will see though it.
Instead, please explain for us how lets say 10-15k monthly paying customers (on warmane alone) would be a “graveyard-server” and not a smart thing for Blizzard to provide and make money off instead?
You can’t deny that the demand is there since warmane (just to name one) has been alive and well for 10+ years now with thousands of players.
I see plenty of people on the era servers, I’m sure some servers are emptier than others, but with today’s tech it should be easy to scale things for a lot less than it used to cost.
I see your point, I would never stay in one era forever, but progress over time, then start all over again at a later time. I would keep doing this until I’m dead…
I can only speak for myself, but I’m sure I’m not the only one.
Heck I’m not even that fond of TBC, but others are and why should I be the only one getting what I want?
I know it’s not very likely it will ever happen, but it is a lot more possible to achieve, for less, than ever and sometimes crazy dreams are all you have!
You attempted to get me by pointing out that Warmane TBC is popular. Warmane launched a TBC server yesterday. Warmane previously shut down both their TBC servers because of inactivity, and yet most ERA servers are far more dead because they have been left to rot.
Nobody is saying TBC isn’t popular and neither was I. What I am saying is leaving servers up forever is pointless because people stop playing them eventually and they reach a point where normal gameplay activities as an MMO are impossible. You’re trying to use Warmane as an example and it’s nothing but the best example to prove MY point because Warmane TBC was so popular and still died within 2 years.
Warmane TBC 2.0 that launched yesterday will be a WOTLK server in a year or so, and is not going to be a forever server either, to avoid a repeat of that mistake.
Well, just taking a look right now there are 33k active players online on warmane and ppl in queues to get in. Subtract the 12k from the most recent server launched “Onyxia” and you still have 21k players online left. Out of which 12k players are playing on their 10+ year old server Icecrown.
Are you saying this is impossible? Fake-news? Are all these players just idle in dalaran?
If you are just going to straight up ignore facts idk, we can’t really get anywhere.
Icecrown is an anomoly, and quite how they have managed to keep that going is a mystery to me, but they tried it with every other expansion and they all failed miserably. Their TBC server was the biggest example because it was ridiculously popular on launch, just like their new one is, but it completely died and got shut down.
That’s why this time around they are doing progression servers and not a continuous server, with TBC.
And, if you had era servers for every exp people could go around and around forever which would mean even more people would do it. It would never be to late to join WoW without having to miss out on anything…well almost anything, as times do change.
But you wouldn’t be able to experience those old expansions because they require an active playerbase to function. That’s why it’s better to do fresh launches like they are doing next week where everyone can come together and start at the same time.
It takes a large movement to get the servers going, when they die off there is nothing to bring them back alive without fresh motivations, like a new expansion or a new release. That’s why next week you will see maybe 100k+ players flock to anniversary Classic, even tho today there are less than 1000 players across all realms.
I think this is as close as we can get. Atleast it’s a way better than “I AM THE LAW (of p-server knowledge)”. We just have to agree to disagree obviously so have a nice day!
Maybe, but my thought was that with enough players taking the journey there would always be someone to play with in each era, but I suppose if they keep doing this that could be great too. Just that if it was available all the time it would be easier for people to join in at their own time instead of a specific time window.
And I think there are way more than a thousand people across all Classic Era servers, unless they are all following me around!!
Idk how many ppl you would need, but as long as you can fill up one server…
Again , I’m not saying it’s very realistic, I just have a crazy fantasy…
And this one I can share publicly…
Ahem, anyways, while I would prefer it to be free, Blizzard could charge a small fee for moving a character/Guild to the next era, and we do know they like to have some moar of our monies…
I’m not trying to be “the law” of pserver knowledge, but you tried to get me by assuming I didn’t know about Warmane. But I know a lot about that server, in particular their TBC server, which was at the time the best to date, and by far the most popular, and it died and got shut down after sunwell, a perfect example of the point I’m trying to make here.
But yes Icecrown and WOTLK (with a cash loot store, and character sale/trading I might add) has somehow remained successful indefinitely.
It seems Era servers atract PvE players way more than PvP players. Last time I did a BG was in OG Wrath for the What a Long Strange Trip achievement 
We just have to agree to disagree obviously so have a nice day!
