Yes, those p-servers have drawbacks such as cash-shops etc that you are naming. And just imagine how many more players would play there if it didn’t have those negative sides… You’re sort of argueing my point here.
But atleast we could concur that there are thousands upon thousands of active tbc/wotlk players on p-servers. Dispite them being many years old. And the fact that some p-servers fail which you constantly circle back to, does not prove that there are no hope for other servers. As proven with the warmane example.
Yep private servers are popular, TBC/WOTLK is popular. TBC though has yet to survive the death of Kil’Jaeden in terms of server popularity. WOTLK servers do somehow manage this, and yet many Classic players would have you think that WOTLK is the lesser game.
ERA has not succeeded long term, Warmane TBC (Outland) had to get shut down, Blizzard after seeing what happened to ERA decided not to continue with TBC once WOTLK launched, and by evidence of the new release have decided to make future servers seasonal and progressive too.
I mean, you can’t really have it both ways. You just admitted that there is a huge demand and that there are successful 10+ year old p-servers providing for the demand. So arguing that it cant be done at the same time seems very wierd. But I’m done trying to reason with you. Have a nice day! Bye bye!
I’m not sure why you would expect a different result from doing the same thing twice. We have countless evidence of it not working, and we have no evidence of any measures being made to allow it to work.
Icecrown is an anomaly even among Warmane servers, because all the others failed and Blizzard failed too with ERA, it’s completely dead. You think for some reason they leave a TBC server up forever and people will just keep playing, even though we have clear evidence to show that will not work out?
You do the same thing, you will get the same result. What does Warmane do different on WOTLK? Cash shop, character trading and rolling seasons. Do you want Blizzard to allow account trading and buying Warglaives for $150?
Sorry but this is not an answer and it’s also wrong on every level. When Outland TBC launched it did not have a cash shop, initially, the largest complaint on the forums was from players who wanted to buy their T4 BIS from the cash shop while Warmane were waiting for enough guilds to have cleared it first.
That theme continued in every tier they released. Actually the Cash shop is a large reason why a lot of players play on those servers, so they can have the best gear. I don’t know why you’d be surprised by this either considering the economy of Classic ran on it, GDKP and gold selling was all due to this.
If Blizzard sold loot on the store there would be uproar, but they’d make a killing.
One WOTLK cash shop/account trading server, and one alone has survived for 10+ years. All of the others, every single one of them has died. NO TBC servers have survived. You’re just being dishonest anyway, using day 1 release numbers as an indicator of some sort of future success, and you keep sidestepping the fact that the most successful TBC Pserver was dead within 2 years and got shut down.
There has never been a long term TBC server that survived, they all died, just like ERA.
No you’re just annoyed that it does work. That’s why you won’t address any of the points that flat out discredit what you say, and base your opinions on fairytales of make believe.
God the copium. There is like 14 alliance players and 2 horde at any given moment across the entire region and you think it’s a success. There aren’t enough horde players online to fill an AV, games have been shut down for less.
I just checked out and there are 50+ players at 60 level in Firemaw. So you’re wrong about 14 alliance players. Probably few thousands of players. WoW is PvE game, so AV metrics is useless, the main metric is whether players are subscribed or not and if they are in the game, they are subscribed.
Firemaw is the alliance cluster, it’s the only place with players, but this is a game with multiple realms across multiple clusters that covers an entire continent region, and it doesn’t have enough players to run a simple battleground.
Now go to the PVE and Horde PVP cluster, orgrimmar is completely empty, the AH is completely empty. Blizzard has shutdown servers that had a more active playerbase than the entire region of ERA, and you’re trying to defend it as if it’s active, pure copium.
Speaking only for myself, I’d prefer it if these servers not progress past TBC. I did not like WotLK, and I liked Cata even less.
In fact, I’d ideally have the old world remain at 1.12 state (with elite areas like Jin’tha Alor remaining elite), but obviously including the quests added in TBC (like the ones in Dustwallow). And of course XP gain, mount prices etc also remaining at 1.12 state. It won’t happen I know, but I would personally like it, as it would mirror my original 1-70 journey back in the day.
I think you accidentally logged into Hydraxian Waterlords Era - the RP-PvE server that was killed by Blizz’s .
The PvE cluster is totally alive with over 16000 auctions allyside and over 6000 hordeside. I just checked /who very fast
Allyside no 1-10 etc below 50,
Hordeside 50+, 50+, 38, 20, 25, 50+ Orgrimmar 28, and Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer dropped recently, as the NPC’s have it.
Hordeside also have 50+ people in Ahn’Quiraj … this means at least two raids …
But yes there’s all of 2 Hordies in Alterac Valley. PvE players, and certainly Era PvE players just do not care for BGs.
if this is a dead server, we’re all dead.
Reflects the ratio, if a bit roughly. Not sure why that guy keeps thinking its dead, but SW lags in the evening at peak time its so busy. I guess this doesn’t fit his narrative, even though there are several different posters here stating evidence to the contrary.
Nearly 40 servers, 2/3 of them are completely dead with no players, you can walk around Gehennas cluster and see no players like a complete ghosttown, and the one active cluster still can’t muster enough organic players for any group activity. If the game doesn’t have enough players for a battleground, it’s dead, the servers are costing more money to keep up than there are players to justify the costs.
And you’re here sitting in denial because you manage to get 40 people to raid-log once a week for an organised guild raid.
Typical response of attack the person and not the point of discussion, because you know I’m right and the truth hurts. The dumb arguments like “Era players don’t do PvP” while you’re on a PvP cluster for a game where PvP was massively popular while the servers were actually active.
And goodluck in 3 days because the remaining 14 active players on Firemaw Cluster will move to Fresh and then all of the ERA clusters will be dead.
I probably cba to answer anymore since it’s completely fruitless. But Im just curious how your mind works.
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