That mean you have to way more consumables in order to successfully clear a raid.
Dark Rune, Flask, LIP, Eng gadget, Mana Potion, everything will be required if you want to push your DPS at the top and kill bosses. Casual is going to have a very hard time gathering everything, lot of guilds are going to disband due to inconsistency between players that pop consumables, and others that pop the minimum …
For example on PTR, Healer are using multiple flask in the same combat to get 2k mana back. I often saw healer using 4/5 Flask Of Distilled Wisdom on Ragnaros.
Okai, let’s assume player really want to farm all of this.
Due to this high amount of consumables required, all high level zones are going to be instantly camped.
Every single herb and ore are going to be way more valuable than the original Classic we had 2 years ago. Since boosting and AoE dungeons farm are nerfed in Classic SoM, you can expect way more competition outdoor because there’s not many way to farm golds.
Now, imagine the PvP player that need honors to increase their ranks each weeks. What do you think will happen on a PvP server week #1 ? They are going to camp theses spot like everyone else, since there’s no need to be BR1 to go Rank 14 anymore. You can simply farm player outdoor and enjoy a BR5 each week.
Add the bots that will infest every high level zones again instead of botting in dungeons. At least in dungeons they are not taking the outdoor …
Not sure where you got the idea of being able to get Rank 14 through BR5 but that’s completely innacurate, the decay won’t allow you. You still need at least 1 BR1 standing at the end. Just because you’ve got double the gain it doesn’t mean you can be in whatever BR you want and get 14, and even if it was possible it would most likely take more than 3 months.
You’re blowing this way out of proportion and you draw ludacris conclusions. Roll on a low pop realm and join a casual guild if you’re so worried.
Maybe FR gear will start to be important again. Maybe the increased nodes offset the prices of consumables. Maybe more players take a casual approach to the game and we get a real nice community going. Maybe very few will raid and many will just do BGs and dungeons? Maybe the botters figure out it’s not worth it.
Nothing that has happened in Classic, or is happening now in Era and TBC, speaks very loudly for those “maybe’s” tho.
SoM wont magically make the community start doing things it could have all this time but for some reason didnt.
Care to eloborate why none of those maybes are likely to happen given what happened in ERA and TBC? I’m especially interested in the maybes around FR gear and the offset of prices and less interested in the community thing.
Obviously Im not talking about the approch on bosses (like gearing), since bosses are being changed. But its not like resistans gear and how people get that would be something new for even Classic or Vanilla.
Everything else, amongst it how people “maybe would go more casual” or play “more dungeons/BGs than raid” goes against anything the Classic and modern playerbase has shown or done. If there’s a fast and effective way to do things, that is how it will be done, if its even approached at all. More likely so when things take even longer time.
The people that talked about old vanilla community this and old vanilla mechanics that back in Classic were the same people who quit by BWL. Lets see if their money is where their mouth is this time around, doubt it tho.
There were two camps on the forums before Classic was released. One that predicted the meta and behaviour of players based on years of private servers and modern gamers. The other nostalgically grasped for “maybe’s” that reminded them about old vanilla, blaming the private servers for being “wrong” and saying people would behave different. What happened? The meta and behaviour became almost identical to private servers, with speedruns, reservations and mafia, and people joined in or were excluded.
To be fair, I think we all expected people would “minmax” every single aspect of the game, and the “maybes” group you refer to, was more like a wish.
I was one of those. I knew people would go full tryhard, going for BiS gear before each phase, farming all consumables, optimal raid setups and so on.
I just had the hope that people would for some reason not do that.
And at least in my server (ZT) there were some people who took the “vanilla” approach.
If Blizz did make a new “no changes” server, I think this time it would be slightly different (as in there would be no more “world first classic” competitions, so people in general would maybe want to take it slightly easier. Yes, that’s a maybe.), but overall people would most likely still keep optimizing their characters to the very best.
I dont blame them at all, and in some aspect I was there aswell. But after 2 years playing Classic Ive realized that the community, gamers and general look on games in general and MMOs specifically simply isn’t the same as it once was. I dont mind whatever Meta became a thing, it made me look on WoW Classic from a view which made me appreciate it even more (or atleast in another way), but that ment I had to kill a nostaligic idea - a “maybe it will be like it was” - if you will.
Hence, I dont think SoM will create a crowd or meta any different from whatever we are getting on most other games, mmos and versions.
