It’s what they had to work with, and also the version of the game most people who played on various private servers will be familiar with.
They’re not
That’s your opinion. Some people really like using world buffs.
Premades were a thing in vanilla too, and I also don’t get how people can say that the community and friendships you make along the way is one of the best parts of the game, while at the same time hating on people doing just that in the form of premades.
Gaming culture today is different than gaming culture 15 years ago, shocker.
Sounds like you thought you wanted something, but didn’t?
Because in my post, I clearly said that I did the 0-50 levelling in the launch month with my friends, thankfully I caught the better days of levelling almost fully, I never said I missed it.Even now after coming to finish up the remaining levels, I am still very satisfied with my levelling journey in classic up to 59 now.That was the part I specificly praised about classic in my post.Loved the levelling.
No.None of the people I had grouped up with had pre-raid bis or t0.5.All of them were around my gear, I never got boosted either, just normal questing and normal basic dungeon runs.
This is contradicting everything else in your post.
The reason we like classic is because you get stuff by putting in the effort. Unlike retail where you get rewarded with legendary items for logging on twice a week. Retail is the participation trophy incarnate. It’s the polar opposite of what classic is all about - While I agree that the subcommunities (gbidding, boosting, premading, reserving) can appear easy, they’re actually the opposite. You invest heavily in making your life easier, but you’re still investing. You’re just smart about it. However, you can still just play 3 times as much and get the same reward. Or… you can go to retail and log on and BAM you’re there. You arrived at your destination before even finishing your loading screen. Congratulations! Let’s celebrate the astonishing mediocrity of it all.
No.I was saying the bad AND the good parts of my classic experience, in a thread called ‘‘Classic was a bad idea’’.My own experience tells it was not a bad idea, but could’ve been better.That was my own response to the thread, be it right or wrong.
No one were talking to you, can’t understand that unless I tell it directly like this? Read carefully next time, so I wouldn’t need to explain it as simple as I just did.Attaboy, on your way now.
maybe this opens a bit of the eyes of blizzard and they notice what kind of huge mistake they did with orginal wow by listening people that only cry, cry and cry.
Like I said, that’s taken directly from the economist, which wikipedia uses as a source. The millennial generation is defined as being the first generation where having access to things like mobile phones, PC’s and the internet during their childhood/teenage years were starting to become the norm.
The generation you’re likely referring to is generation Z, also known as zoomers on the internet, which begins with people born in 1997, to around 2012 to 2014 as the end point (yet to be determined).
Well said. I totally agree on the TBC part as well. It was my favourite time in wow doing a lot of raiding and glad on my warlock, but now that i have seen the classic communauty, i plan on a hard skip if they ever release it.
As perfect as the game would be, i expect the players to be worse than in Classic because of arena. And Classic (for most players, there are really nice people out there still) is the worst i have ever seen on a online game.
What are you on dude, all they had to work with? they could have chosen any patch they wanted to, what are you talking about? instead they went with the pre tbc patch, the garbage overpowered talent tree patch, the nerfed raid bosses patch, the easy mode patch.
World buffs are mandatory in the majority of guilds, the whole community is full of raidlogger boomers who want to log in once a week, spend less than 30 minutes in a raid for epics then log off to deal with their horrible kids. If you make it longer than 30 minutes for them they turn into massive man babies and start getting toxic real quick.
Premades were not an issue in Vanilla, cross realms ruined Classic and turned it into this garbage horrible experience where full premades of R10-14 players farm randoms all day long. Friendship and community in PVP, they all hate eachother. Classic has the most unnatural way of making friendships in any MMO ever, signing up to discord and conforming to a bracket stacking mafia… what a joke.
The PVP community in classic are scum, they deliberately griefed people in P2 and then continued their horrible behavior in premades and Blizzard did nothing to balance it or level the playing field because they’re a garbage dead company.
I love it when ppl call 1.12 like that, without realizing that the difference between 1.0 and 1.12 is the result of a lot of accumulated changes throughout Vanilla’s tenure, and that most of these changes happened in the first few patches. We could have Classic based on 1.10 and you wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference, for the most part.
Maybe you joined the wrong guild/server, I know plenty of guilds that aren’t like that. Though yeah wbuffs are a terrible mechanic but that’s part of why I mostly wanted Vanilla re-released so we could get TBC/WotLK as well, not because Vanilla is the best version of WoW or something.
Yeah, I think I can somewhat relate to that. Both the game and community are definitely a far cry from what they used to be like back in Vanilla/TBC, so I can see why people would feel cheated.
That’s not to say it’s all bad though, there seems to be a reasonably large cohort of players who just want to play the game and don’t freak out about the meta or frankly soul-destroying efficiency. (Let’s face it if playing this game feels like a chore, or worse still a full-time job, maybe it’s worth re-evaluating your priorities). The raid logging seems a little weird to me personally, back in vanilla it wasn’t really a thing and pretty much only fringe hardcore guilds ever bothered trying to acquire all these prior to a raid. As for boosting, I don’t get why you’d pay monthly to play a game, only to then pay again to outsource that playing of said game to someone else essentially. Not saying this wasn’t a thing back in vanilla, but it definitely wasn’t on this quasi-industrial scale. (But hey, who am I to judge what other people do with their money/time?)
That all being said I disagree with the premise that Classic was an inherently bad idea, personally I’m really enjoying the game and lots of other people seem to be too. Given how there has always been consistent demand for private servers I think it’s great that Blizz has created a space for those players. After all, it’s not strictly the fault of a game if the community turns into a toxic morass of min-maxing.
I’ll admit that having only haphazardly blundered through the first 20 levels or so I’m hardly an authority on the state of Classic, but I figured I’d weigh in as a fresh pair of eyes that missed all the drama that’s impacted the game over the past year or so. No doubt I’ll end up running into some of the problems others have listed here, but I still think it was worth it in the long run, even if it’s just a learning opportunity for Blizzard and the community.
When I started Classic the leveling experience was great, I stayed up for 30 hours playing the game and it felt almost like Vanilla WOW back in the day. It’s later in the game you’ll start to see little things that slowly start to eat away at that authentic experience.
You may even experience them earlier than late game because on my realm no one is doing low lvl dungeons anymore, they’re selling boosts though really contributing to the decline of the game.
They’ve said they don’t have the data for earlier patches than 1.12 anymore.
No they did not. Patch 2.0 is the pre TBC patch, which was released in december of 2006 and did things like change the talent trees in preparation for TBC. Classic is using patch 1.12, which released in august of 2006 and introduced things like cross realm bg’s, as well as silithus and eastern plaguelands world pvp objectives. Raids also weren’t really nerfed in vanilla, aside from bug fixes.
Then perhaps get a new guild if you don’t enjoy it.
Premades were a thing in vanilla and things like bracket stacking definitely happened on larger servers.
They farmed honor in order to rank. Why did you roll on a pvp server if you didn’t want to world pvp?