I wonder why people who didn’t even experience s3 or never reached ksm are having the biggest opinion on which dungeons to choose and what was good and what wasn’t if they don’t even have clue? Is this the way of comforting your ego or you are just saying random stuff to be cool? Remember boys that we are not monke anymore and we have to follow practical logic to stay humans and develop further and the hypocrisy train is going in the wrong direction. If I can advise you something, please think about what you are doing or writing beforehand and then do it
I think you are mistaken here. We don’t get M+ raids instead of a new raid, we get them instead of a more than year long raid tier that would have ended when the new expansion launches.
They didn’t suddenly dropped a raid tier, it doesn’t really work that way. When they launched Nathria, they already knew there would not be more than 3 raid tiers this expansion.
This is a brilliant idea, but the execution is already on a downward trend going forward from the idea phase.
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Please do not under any circumstances entertain the thought of season 4 not having a hall of fame. That makes little sense. You literally cater to people who enjoy competition. That’s ALL you cater to nowadays. Why would you remove that? So get rid of the addendum first.
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Nobody wants to relive the current raid tiers. Castle Nathria was cool and stuff, but in general Shadowlands was poorly received and the raids were subpar. Why not bring back one of the best raids ever made with updated loot? Throne of Thunder. EVERYONE loved Throne of Thunder. It was absolutely amazing. Give it a mythic difficulty and some polish and let it shine again!
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Mythic+ isn’t my cup of tea, but I do have enough sense and knowledge to know that nobody wants to revisit Tazavesh. Sorry. Operation Mechagon is what it is I suppose, return to karazhan? Eh. The choices aren’t really stellar in general? Why not ask people what dungeons they like most in a poll (with a large pool of dungeons) instead of this? Ask us what WE want. Don’t tell us what we want (especially not if you think we want Tazavesh xD)
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The casual players get nothing for the umpteenth time. Maybe make some content for the casual and solo players? WoW used to be so much fun even when just killing time alone. Nowadays you either sit around or do dungeons/raids/pvp. Timeless Isle was one of the best casual experiences you’ve ever had on offer. Maybe do something like it?
Also, for season 4, after 4 weeks (to let the meta settle), do BIWEEKLY balance updates for pvp only. Show us the power of great constant balancing. I know people don’t think you’re super good at it, but at least trying repeatedly gives us less months with metas that are close to League of Legends-level frustrating.
Thank you for reading.
point still stands, we’re getting no fresh content where there should be content.
That only depends on when can they deliver the new expasnion. People tend to forget that the average time between the last patch and the next expansion is around 330 days. If they deliver in 2023 Q1 or early Q2 it is just normal timing and everything we get in season 4 is just an extra.
Personally I don’t mind the content drought at the end of the expansion, but Season 4 just makes it feel like it’s going to last longer than a year. Also, If they really wanted to go the Raid m+, maybe add other raids from previous expansions, not raids I’ve run hundreds of times a few months ago.
This is great. This probably doesn’t take not much development time and gives us something to do while we wait for 10.0. The alternative would be just running sepulcher and season 3 m+ for like 9+ months.
The choice of dungeons is not the best though. Dunno why they are going with the megadungeon theme. Junkyard is defenetly one of the best dungeons ever for m+, but workshop is kinda of a bland boss gauntlet. Also will be a joy doing the stealth part without awakened.
I’d defenetly go for freehold and waycrest for bfa, best dungeons in the game hands down.
You are not forced to play it, enjoy something else in s4, maybe pvp.
Maybe that haven’t announced everything yet?
erm where have you been the last four expansions. Every thing is “Timeless Isle” these days. So NO THANK YOU!!!
Let’s hope so. But I’ve canceled my sub nonetheless.
You just made me (and probably thousands of people) quit the game again! For the very last time I suppose.
Unworthy grinding, zero drops and foolish story missing key parts have already been tucked down, and yet you can add more bs into it. Well done!
wow. this S4 sounds awful terrible, SL already surpassed the worst expansions (WoD & BFA), but just how deep szar can Ion push this game before he leaves?
I like the idea of old raids being current once again, it is neat trick, personally I liked CN the most. So I’d very much enjoy going back there. That said, I’d probs skip SoD, because this raid just wasn’t appealing for me (even tho I cleared it 6M/10HC, I just dont get the vibes)
Now… the mythic keys that will be brought back, aka Mega-Dungeons - that’s… ermm.
I really dislike Tazavesh, the Streets part has terrible optimization (fps low! LOL)
Mechagon - Me likey.
Kara… - I’m not sure. But I am not saying no to that.
WoD dungeons - it’s whatvs for me.
To sum it up, half of your idea is fine by me, but the other half is kinda meh.
I’m not a fan of streets, esp last boss and that intermission with dropping the stuff for the password. That last one, interesting for normal dungeon gameplay. but not for M+ (imo).
In the end, I quite like this whole idea esp since I love M+ . Will probably keep me going longer, so if that was the idea, good job ;).
I quite liked Karazan and the Mechagon dungeons as well. All these extra dungeons are quite hard, and that’s also nice, no easy dungeons.
Bit sad that this Train WoD dungeon may get through, but I’ll take whatever comes.
Not interested at all. Looking foward to something more open world fun.
Please don’t mess this up by doing it half hearted, we need a breath of fresh air in this direction.
For all who say this is a bad idea i dont really understand you. You prefer to have nothing to do till 10.0 and just complain. This is a very good idea and you know what??..if you dont like the M+ pool just dont play, that simple
People will always hate the m+ pool no matter what, in 90% of the cases, they just shift there dislike to the new dungeons that came out, has been like this since m+ became a thing in Legion.
this feels like something a game in maintenance mode would do, maintenance means rehashing old content again and again till the game is dead. (see rift end of life)
this is not a good look in 2022. next expansion…2024?
we’re paying a 15$ sub for this crap? you know this content is poop, we know it…might as well take responsibility and half the price for that so we can imagine it’s worth it.
i didn’t see this comming
i’m not saying wow is dying, just this way of going forward gives it that feeling.
i see some people believing s3+s4 in the same standard season time, i see it as buying more time than regular between expansions.