Condem doing 25-30% of arms dmg in arena

Ah come on, not even close. Condemn / Gushing are equivalent, shifting power and ineffable are not even close to being equivalent of power (assuming you were max-stacking both gushing and ineffable).

You repeating that over and over again does not make it true. How can a passive bleed be equivalent to an active ability? What next, are you going to say that Aimed Shot is the same as Gushing because it does ~30% of hunter’s damage?

Coldshade is entirely in the right here, Condemn definitely needs to be nerfed somehow, but you cant compare a passive dmg proc to Condemn, a modified execute that also has a cost requirement.

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Im comparing borrowed powers. Of course im not saying that a passive stupid dmg proc is the same as condemn and i dont think i have during this thread. Im just saying that i think its extremely wierd that a class with already great damage gets a borrowed power which accounts for 30% of their damage, just like the borrowed power gushing wound did.

Is there any other spec that has a covenant spell that deals the same amount of damage?
Most other over the top covenant spells deal one shot damage, or at least rng, one shot damage. But since they are up only during burst windows it doesn’t really compare to condemn imo.

Personally I find condemn to be a horrible talent. It’s not just too strong, it’s downright dumb. But sure, guess it gives me more food to the zugzug jokes, so guess that’s a positive.

Because every covenant abilities should cover every role the class can play, the absorb is there for prot war basically, and is greatly nerfed for arms and fury.

Condemn replaces Execute. It’s like complaining about Mongoose Bite when it was still used, because it replaces Raptor Strike. Talents are borrowed power just as much as covenants are.

Ability =/= passive on items. Start understanding the difference. And for what it’s worth, I do think Condemn is too powerful, but so are a plethora of other things that are in my opinion far more gamebreaking. Like RMx.

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I agree, nerf condemn , buff spear.

No overbuff disney covenant so they have to play it. :fairy: more farming = more gametime :man_office_worker:

Also force them to use fae covenant armor! Jk i dont hate warrs that much. :laughing:

And ghoushing did 30% AND u had to do nothing for it.

imagine being warrior: you are immortal, your team mates are immortal because of u, press one button and do 13k dps… Then instead of getting free 345554144 rate you come in this thread and dfend ur class.

Its funny how u know all this it never happens outside 1.3 mmr.

Maybe poste with a Char where we can see i bet u play also something fotm.

U sit on 1.7 with all ur chars :slight_smile:

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4665464 rate as warrior is 1300 as any class

it’s easy to talk rubbish if you are all the time sub rival
https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Anachronos/Asada

so why is your warrior 1,3k? xD to complicated to get glad or woot?
my 194ilvl rogue is sitting higher than your war, bah even higher than your spriest in 2s, get a grip and l2p

Man he plays shadow the 2 best caster in the game 1.7 that says it all.

Back to important buisniuss

2800 as warr is 1300

Dude ur just salty and u have big l2p issues dont blame it on warrior ty.

you just scared that ur broken sh*t gets deleted getting all defensive xd

Dont mind Dustyxd, he’s just upset.
But can you blame him? He’s nearly negative win loss on all his chars. Even his warrior

He just needs to pass the blame on something :innocent:

well all your not warr alts (and you have 6) are sub 2k xD