I aint cyncial nor do i hate people.
I just accept a % of players will engage in this game unfavorably, and something will inevitably ruin the game modes purity when handed to the masses.
This is why you find these niches of audiences create leaderboards and more, to try and retain purity.
So u can ensure the community ur in are upholding rules and ignoring what some rsndoms doing
We know Wow for almost 20 years. We know how trading and AH will ruin the game. Why do you think they disabled it in Diablo 3 ?
While we played hardcore, we all recognize we re-discovered a way of playing wow that doesnât revolve around being rich, more about managing risk and thinking carefully about our choices.
As you say, leaderboards were targeting a very little niche of elitist players. Rules and restrictions were not. It was not about purity but managing the difficulty of the challenge, for us to struggle.
We ALL know wow classic for so much years that if you let the AH and trading occurs, there will be no more difficulty. Please donât refute that.
I never did.
I simply am stating a degree of players will inevitably find a method to abuse the game in order to drastically make this easier, make the news public. And this is stain the game mode.
And i agree with you. Iâm just advocating for the fact that AH and trading are too obvious.
The less people find âthe wayâ the better.
Itâs ok if speedrunners exist, I just donât want to see a majority be speedrunners.
If yall want to play with Mail and trading, play normal era, classic wotlk or retail 
All well said.
But as of right now, its not implemented that way, so they simply dont need to, weather blizzard change this is unknown, but its going to come down to popularity to weather they will or wont.
If they think it will lose more then gain making said changes they wont do it.
Well that can be agreed yes,
This video says it all
If trading will be allowed it will be classic all over again , black lotus mafia , warrior quest for the 2h in lvl 30 , traveling throught portals and summoning , boting etc etc . Imo this has been done by the vast majority of players so far decreasing the amount of ppl that are going to play the game at the end of the day. My two cents though , itâs what came first to my mind and Iâm a wotlk classic player.
All I can think about , is that HC is a chance to engage more the rpg aspect of the game and less the mmo . Not excluding it ofc . I also believe that restrictions should be made with trading and AH , I wonât suggest which restrictions in this post , but not entirely remove it .
Anyway Baldurâs Gate and Starfield on the horizon , so each and everyone interested in a more rpg approach can go give their money there , instead of Blizz milking more , an almost 20 year , game .
Great video byw , made me laugh 
I didnât know it was posting on this dead char , I am adding my main
This is not even true. IronMan IS allowed mail, trade, AH. As for stats gear, welcome to sell on AH or trade even, only not buy â or rather only not USE; you could buy ⌠but totally useless to do.
Apart from this I agree let people play how they like.
These threads full of purists clamouring that âlesser cleanâ people should not be allowed fun. I know the tune from IronMan, HC-addon guys and AH-sharkies. All gatekeepers feeling superior. Sorry for feel bitter here. Just fed up with elitist Gatekeepers who think othersâ fun spoils their oh so precious pure shiny bauble.
Short answer, this is not the server for âHardcore challengeâ. This is a normal WoW server with one life, which was asked for a decade already.
Donât ruin the game for others. If you donât want to trade, donât trade. You still can use your stupid addon for âchallengeâ
another elitist. play single-player games then. we are love wow classic for the community and social part of this game which includes trade and grouping.
anyway you are âchallengersâ always trying to abuse some mechanics or find some ersatz for those feature you banned with that stupid âchallengeâ
So what?
You are using an addon that tracks all this already. If you donât want to use it, donât use it. Do not interfere with others having fun.
Players came up with Hardcore classic. Itâs been a success. If you want to trade while playing HC, just play normal and delete your character on death.
Trading makes the whole game easier for everyone. Even if I donât trade, ppl in my random dungeon group will, making the dungeon easier. People will be in less difficult situations, making death rarer.
I like that I constantly look around at other players and how theyâre doing, so I can help out if need be. If you have op twinks running around, that aspect will get lost.
Again, HC Classic has been a success the way itâs been. Why everyone feels entitled to have basic parameters changed now doesnât register with me. Just play normal Classic, like I said, and delete your character on death. Why canât ppl leave something the way it was, when thatâs what led to the creation of dedicated servers in the first place?
Ironman was first and for many years. They never forbade trading. Why you want decide how we play.
If you donât like, donât use!
I like do professions WHILE levelling HC not at 60.
So why would you just play a single âplayer wowâ? itâs not that hard
HC without trading or auction house sounds trash. Just use the addon on HC servers if you want restrictions.
So many softcores in this thread
Trading is not problem. and if bots are your problem. I have for you 4 solutions. Pick one or more as some of these combine, others not:
Hardcore is a self-imposed challenge, with the only fixed rule that you are not allowed to die.
If you want to add additional rules for yourself you can do it, if others donât want these rules, let them be.
Nobody forces you to buy items when you are below lv 55, nobody forces you to use get carrys or to use full geared tanks in your party.
For 95%+ even with trading it is hard to do and if you buy gold to buy items then most likely you are part of the people that die fast and lose all the money you spend.
Instead of being angry at people that used trading or help from friend, you can simply be proud of your achivement to do it without.
Never understood why people always want to force others to play exactly like them.
Iâm sure there are even people that want to do it without using magic or better items, does that mean blizzard should disable drops for magic and better items?
Itâs a game and most people play it for fun, if they have more fun with trading at low levels just let them be, in no way it changes your experiance.
I for my part prefer trading since I donât want to play alchemist and herbalist with my first char, so itâs hard to come by healing potions without trading for me and since I always play by myself Iâm not really interested in a Guild etc.
Maybe Blizzard could create special âno trade serversâ, but I donât see any reason why people that want to do it with trading, should not be allowed to, since people that donât want to trade could simply opt. out of it with not doing it and have their fun their own way.
Edit:
About the trading makes it easier for everyone, the amount of it making it easier is not as high as some people think.
Yes to buy an wand from an enchanter on low level helps on low level a lot till you get a wand from a quest which was not really high level.
For these strong rare items or world epics, there is a really high chance that people buying them get overconfident and therefore are in risky situation more often than players that wonât buy them, which in my opinion evens out the advantage, since more risky situations means higher chances of death means more deaths than for players that donât overequip with their gold.