With Shop added to the anniversary servers, could we have the option of WoW token?
As it stands, just looking at the Auction house and general inflation/bot population/RMT is clearly rampant anyway. As RMT is against the game rules, yet people still clearly want to do it, this seems like an easy win for everyone.
If Blizzard launched wow token for anniversary and priced it a low price point, then the RMTs would switch to buying gold from Blizzard. It would also make the bots unprofitable if theyâre unable to shift their stock and their numbers would gradually reduce, which would in turn reduce the amount of raw gold being generated into the economy.
Blizzard could then include a currency squish or some other method of mass golf removal from the economy as part of TBC transition.
i know multiple gold buyers. one of them got b anned for the first time in years despite spending about ÂŁ100 a month on RMT. their punishment? a 2 week suspension. gear they bought with gold is probably still intact, weâll see once theyre unâbannedâ
How can you ban all the buyers when such a large portion of the playerbase is doing it ? They would not have a game left.
Wow token accomplishes the same thing, those who wish to RMT will buy token and not from bots and then the number of bots will decline, if done correctly, blizz could monitor when the number of bots drops below a certain threshold where they are no longer significantly effecting the economy, then lower the amount of gold per ⏠to slow inflation and introduce gold sinks or squish (some form of direct intervention) to remove gold from the economy. This sort of direct intervention is really the only thing that will work without directly effecting their own profits
Welcome to fantasy land, the gold sellers just drop their prices, therefor they need more bots to generate more gold to compete with the tokens. Introducing the token will in the short term have the effect you describe to then within a month or 2 have the complete opposite effect, as there will be more gold buyers (not more people buying the illicit gold from the sellers but just numbers of people buying gold) and the sellers would have to compete with lower prices to stand a chance against the gold people can buy without a risk of getting banned.
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Seeing as the tokens are based around how many people buy them on the auction house and how many are up at the auction house (and seeing as you are guaranteed a certant amount of gold at the time you buy the token from the store, the legally cant lower the amount of gold you get for your money after you have bought it.
It wouldnt work anyways, retail and cata classic still are infected by bots and both of them have the token.
Your objections are quite childish. Bots cost money to run, if priced appropriately then bots can be made effectively unprofitable. It is not âfantasy landâ but siple real world cost/benefit, why would you run bots if it is unprofitable ? You wouldnât.
You stated that WoW token works a certain way therefore itâs unworkable. It is quite literally a direct intervention by Blizzard, it can work anyway they want it to. There is nothing to stop Blizzard simply changing this. Gold sellers operate by running bots to generate raw gold (from grey items/cash/materials) and then this raw gold is sold onto players. Blizzard with wow token has the ability to simply conjure gold out of thin air without the need for it to be framed, therefore bots cannot compete with blizzard if they priced the wow token effectively to kill them whilst profiting themselves.
Are you kidding me? Pay to win RMT has been in game since day 1. My high school buddies had a side income of selling lvl 60 characters on our local version of e-bay back in 2006 (as a form of black market lvl60 âboostâ).
Bots and bought gold has been an intrinsic part of WoW from the start. Do you remember the gold selling ads made out of flying lvl 1 characters in front of AH? Pepperidge farms remembers.
Waw always was pay to win for those who dare and donât care.
I never bought gold, but frankly, if Blizz doesnât add tokens, I am very heavily considering it when AQ and Naxx comes around so I can do them with consumes. I would lie if I said I didnât low-key hope they do add the token, so I can buy my flasks legally.
Let me rephrase then. WoW was not intended as a P2W game, and the fact that some people buy gold from criminal third party websites who make their gold from botting and hacked accounts does not legitimise the practice, neither does account selling.
WoW Tokens have no place in this game. Allowing whales to gain an edge over less flush players by paying real money for advantage is the death of Classic and in my opinion signifies everything thatâs wrong with retail or latter iterations of Classic.
Just hypothetically, what advantage do they gain? Pre-bis items like edgrmasters and LHH? Consumes to get better parse in raid? Consumables to steamroll as premade in AB/WSG? Itâs literally just exchanging 1h of irl work for 10 hours of in game farm. Yeah i agree itâs not fair and discouraging, but strictly speaking there is nothing you can get for RMT that you canât get by being a no-lifer.
Fact is, wow playerbase is vey different now than it was 20 years ago. It infuriates me I would need to spend all work day boosting whales in Stockades to get gold that I could buy for 30 minutes of my irl project work. I am honestly thinking between unsubbing until tbc prepatch or just buying 100eur worth of gold and having fun in AQ and Naxx. The only thing stopping me is the stories of bans.
No they are quiet autistic and direct, not childish.
Blizzard have failed at that so they would not succeed now, just because you want to be able to buy sanctioned gold.
And at what point do they become unprofitable? Would blizzard ever be able to out compete someone who runs the subs on stolen credit cards?
Then its not the wow token now is itâŚ
And then you will have even worse runaway inflation than a infinite amount of bots would cause, and it already works by just spawning in gold 90% of the time as people only buy new tokens to sell when the tokens gold value is up, and people buy game time for their gold when the price is going down.
You clearly underestimate criminal operations and their ability to make money.
The advantage is the one you stated in your post. The ability to get hold of expensive, high-effort items such as consumables and BoE gear. This ever way you look at it thatâs an advantage and the net result is that RL poor players cannot compete on a level playing field with RL players with high disposable incomes. It isnât fair and goes against the spirit of Classic.
Fortunately GDKP is outlawed on AR but on Classic Era it creates a scenario in which wealthy players are literally paying RL cash for their epic items, and yes Iâm aware that some of them are just very effective farmers who make their own gold - but itâs quite obvious that many of them purchase their gold.
If thatâs now considered acceptable then why no just go the whole hog? Why not just have a cash shop selling Epic and Legendary gear, and âboost to Rank 14â tokens?
WoW already P2W in retail for a long time in that aspect. And also in 2019 classic as well. You can buy very powerful gear from AH. You can legally pay gold to powerful guild who will boost in raid getting drops you need. You can buy all gold with tokens. You can buy leveled character from the shop. It also kind of expected when youâre raiding even in lower guilds, because you still need to spend like 100-200k of gold per month for consumables and crafts.
WoW is already P2W de-jure. And it was P2W de-facto from the start. Donât be delusional, please. Thereâs no way it was not intended by the developers. They could easily make raid bosses to drop 100k gold. They could easily make M+ to drop 5k gold for every run. So raiders wouldnât need to buy gold for consumables. But instead they make 5k gold daily quests which no sane person will ever do willingly.
Not necessarily retail. Classic Cataclysm is the same. The players are mostly the same, so the game is doomed to repeat its history over and over. Retail is just an example of where it inevitably goes.
Both TBC and Wrath I felt no need to buy gold. Clearly the game was balanced so you could afford raid consumables and some spare purchase every now and then just by doing your 20 daily quests most days (and you did that for rep anyway). It is just the latter part of vanilla that feels that way, because raid consumes for a progression night in naxx cost something like 20-30 hour worth of in game farm, or like 10 hours of very high end mage boosting. And farm is all taken up by bots. In classic I did DME jump runs for like 16 hours to pay for 4 hours in naxx. I very much doubt Iâll do so again, especially after this insane AV farm iâm doing right now.
I donât differentiate, Cataclysm is retail WoW, irrespective of them sticking a âclassicâ label on it. It was the expansion that destroyed the game and caused me to quit.
