Current frost Dk

Classes Death Knight
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Returned to the game days ago so i am not sure. Are the frost Dk current state is bad? Because i feel like i am not doing much damage compared to myself back in legion.

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Yes, current Frost dk is pretty bad. The spec revolves around one talent to make it “alright”. Breath of Sindragosa which some people like, but a lot of other people dislike. 8.2 brings some good changes to breath, but imo an even better change would be a removal of it. Anyways, Icecap is also getting buffed, but not sure if it will be on a competitive level yet, maybe for PVP.

As for PVP, you’re a tank. Insane survivability but not a lot of dmg. That’s it :slight_smile:

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Only these talents are getting buffed? Or in general the Frost Dk will get buffed to be in good state at 8.2? Because it really makes me feel bad to do dungeons/raids and not being able to do a good dps even when i try to do my best :frowning:

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Damage will be fine in 8.2, but we won’t be top.

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no1 knows how classes will end up in 8.2 and how new boss mechanics will affect the specs.

breath problem is requiring uptime on boss with no interruption, we already see how powerfull frost breath was in nighthold and then without nerfs got shafted because tomb of sargeras bosses required mechanics/movement and breath was pointless. luckly they fixed it (nerfing breath and buffing everything else) and made it good in antorus

i would not mind breath being a strong powerfull go to build, aslong as there is an anternative for when the above limitations happen

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Bad… BAD ill have you know sir that frost dk are not in a bad spot they are in a absolutely catastrophic spot, 8.2 will improve numbers but as of 8.0 you should hang your blades up and play another spec.

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Damn, really sad to see blizzard downgrading frost dk once again…

Btw how is it the unholy dk? i might change for the sake of not being embarrassed when i look at my dps.

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I mean, we are not completely terrible. But it’s bad.
Anyways, as of unholy, unholy atm in raids is terrible. But we are extremely good on large pulls in dungeons. Top tier in pvp aswell.

Overall, next patch will be decent I guess

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so neither frost or unholy is good at dpsing bosses… damn :confused:
Hope they do more work on us before launching next patch

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dont worry about unholy in raids, nor m+ nor pvp.

the word “terrible” is spit out way to easily

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So it’s actually good? Or much better than frost?
I want to know the truth!

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its better than frost thats for sure.

imagine mechatork a fight where one might have to stop dps for periods of time due to mechanics.

as frost with breath u need to be in melee range all the time, having to move from boss for bombs or bots reduces ur dmg greatly as breath goes to crap.

as unholy, u got pet perma on boss building wounds, as u run in/out u can drop DnD/defile on boss, refresh virulent and cast DC from range before hiding with bombs.
plus the CD uptime required is much lower than a full breath, so using unh frenzy u only need 12sec of melee time on boss between mechanics to use it fully

thats why im complaining on the tunnel vision into frost breath, i been there i seen how poorly it can be on mechanics that require random players to move.
breath was great in nighthold during legion and unusable in tomb of sargeras for the simple fact mechanics required more movement and breath was the only viable build at that time

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I still wouldn’t call Unholy or Frost good. You can raid with them, but don’t have high expectations.

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Current frost is trash, your only choice is going unholy

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lul what good changes you talking about? arent they just nerfing breath and buffing frost strike??

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Both Frost and Unholy are performing rather well in Crucible, I wouldn’t call any of them trash.

There’s been a lot more changes than breath and frost strike tuning. https://www.wowhead.com/news=292226/frost-death-knight-changes-in-8-2-feedback-on-the-spec-so-far

Here’s an article that discuss all the changes. An overall decrease to downtime with breath builds now playing significantly better. I don’t think the tunnel vision arguments about breath builds are true. The breath window is 20 seconds every 2 minutes. The ability takes skill to use since you need to time it around abilities or pre-use AMS to dodge debuffs. It’s a high skill high reward kind of thing. Your damage isn’t all breath either, it’s like 16% on Single Target.

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I encourage you to go read what they’ve changed, then I want you to reflext upon what this means, go play on the ptr and come back. You wouldn’t say that again.

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this just proves how frost DK got into its current position. Ppl either don’t do research, or they don’t understand

I hope ppl will get a tad wiser when they read this.

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Please let me know if you have any questions about the article, I’m the author.

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All I really want is for them to un-nerf pillar of frost in PVP lol.