Title or we riot
The Illidari will rise again!
And I have to say this to wow community.
You think you do but you don’t.
DH is a beginner friendly class, people have always used beginner friendly classes in mobas and other games to do well even when they are pros, but it still has value to the game for these champions to be strong.
Sniper from Dota for example. Jade from Battlerite. I don’t play League but I know people that do will know a champion like this.
Instead does the player base really want OP classes to be:
Rogues from invis stunlocking you and one shotting you. No counter play. Running round pillars to break combat so they can wait 5 mins for all cds to reset.
Hunters also from invis ONE shotting you from across the map.
Paladins IMMUNE to everything, bubble full heal just as they were about to die and also now have the burst and damage to kill you stupid quick.
Also, Feral Druids press one insane button so magic rogue jack of all trades master of none. However, master over specialised dps havoc spec.
I bet having a DH fight you face to face with no invis and way less stun lock than a Rogue felt a lot nicer to play against now.
Well done for bringing back all the cancer classes.
DH is created to be a strong class, everything else is unacceptable. Step ur game up DH developers.
I’m all for buffing DH’s as long as you lose the damage buff for groups.
Vengeance is decent until that time comes
For a melee class it does feel really squishy in PvP, when I see demon hunter in BGs I’m not even trying hard like against other classes, buff them I say. I know it has been hated, but there are classes that performed well through out all expansions, and they still on top, also DH has like only one DPS spec, you can’t mess it up devs.
I dont need to be top dps id settle for middle class. Blizzard help me out here and the rest of us we are losing to tanks in dps ! You broke us time to fix us.
You overnerfed us and overbuffed some other classes.
Agreed, rogues have been meta since Vanilla an always has atleast 2 specs that are meta in something. Now sub is meta in everything and its ok “CuZ raouges aore leike thet kekw git gut”
Hunters are pretty mad right now.
Pala is the most easily kited class in the game. They need strong burst and survivability. Dominating only in unrated/lowrated pvp, not in 1800 and above since wotlk.
Easy dealt with, this is something the rated pvp community know, in bfa 2,5% above 2k rating were ret pala while assa rogue was like 11% and so on with other classes.
Kite the burst (Easy for a dh) - Kill under forbearance.
Feral is not meta in anything, allthough being maybe the most difficult spec to master in pvp. Be happy that someone is dedicated enough to play this spec in pvp.
Haha everyone who kills someone ingame are cancerclasses according to the ones who get killed. Its the popular opinion of the community in 2020.
Bump blizz bump
Let’s keep this topic going. You screwed up blizzard.
I am going to bump it everyday
DH feels like a wet noodle at the moment .
We lost the Meta leech, Blur’s damage reduction by a portion and the 1 sec dodge from blade dance.
I dont know how are you guys doing, but I usually give up on questing in the Maw just after my 3rd or 4th death.
PLEASE BLIZZARD, give us back the freaking 1sec dodge so we can plan our playstyle around it.
We need our damage and survivability back, we only depend on “the hunt” at the moment…
Daily reminder that I love blizzard for making SL legit amazing. But I hate you for not letting my class have fun in it while everybody else runs around feeling OP af!
Stop the class discrimination and the hate we receive from wow playerbase. My guild were basically sh**ting on me last night because of my choices and pretty much getting me ready to be kicked out of raid team 1 which I worked harder for than most others in the guild.
Blizzard you are not doing me a favour by having me not be able to play with them. Instead it will make me extremely upset and loose the community I was working so hard to be part of.
It was so difficult to even convince them in the first place as a new player but now they all think I play garbage class. I want to be in a mythic raiding guild not heroic that are not as dedicated and worked my butt off to do so. Please blizz, not like this…
My guild luckily isnt badmouthing me much…there are few people that find it funny to remind me im trash now but others are cool. They let me play what i love.
That being said… blizzard why did you have to listen to people at the forums whining about our class? We were never top damage on anything and no huge rankings in pvp.
Why didnt you nerf mage and rogue? Nope they are still the same overpowered classes like always. Why didnt you nerf hunter its just as simple as DH…nope whats worse MM hunter is now ridiculous and Bm still does decent damage and reads a book while spamming those 1-3 buttons.
I really hate that people mock me for my bad dps when the fault isnt mine. I’m getting my fingers smashed with all the buttons im trying to click just so i can keep up with others and it doesnt work…while hunters just pew pew from afar doing double of my dps.
agreed, we are adepts of illidan for f sake!
Oh dear lord i just saw a new chart today… blizzard time to do something! we have only 1 dps spec while some have 3 and they are on top and middle on dps charts! fix us. We dont need to be the best but middle cast would be acceptable for someone that has only 1 dps spec!
Not sure how accurate that list is but if its anything to go by you have some work ahead of you.
ttps://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings/ (add an H infront of the ttps…i cant post links
Yea I checked wow logs today and the difference is really easy to see, on some fights we do half of the dmg of UHDK etc … We really do need a big buff.
I dont think anyone here is asking blizz to make DHs op but at least mediocre would be nice.
I mean there are some classes that will most likely get a heavy handed nerf. UHDK and boomkins for sure MM hunters aoe. but just nerfing them wont completely fix our issues.
Really feels bad that class stigma will impact on my experience playing wow.
Already finding it very difficult to get in to m+ group due to the association of havoc having poor single target dps and I’m only talking about low level keys that most groups would be able to complete in time - these low level keys do not require a high level of skill, there are no affixes befofe +4.
I’m very worried about trying to get in to a group with higher keys on tyrannical - I don’t want DH to be top of the charts and I agree that there is a need for balance as Dh were good at everything in BFA but the single target damage is just so low in comparison to other classes - classes that can also obtain very similar numbers in aoe.
My hunter alt, who is is around 5 ilvl lower than my Dh is hitting 9k dps on aoe pulls when all cds are used. My Dh is hitting very similar figures in aoe (slightly less actually).
In pure single target my hunter is sitting at 30%-50% higher dps - in a aoe talent build and with aoe legendary equipped. So you have Dh who lives for the aoe trash pulls breaking even on the dps with other classes, and falling short on the single target by 30%-50%
Bear in mind that I have maimed Dh since legion, I have raided with him throughout most of bfa, completed countless m+, completed my mage tower class challenges, I know the class inside and out (as anyone does for their main) and I am just picking up Hunter in the last few weeks and actually doing better, maintaining dps feels like a cake walk. If it wasn’t for the encouragement of my guildies to stick with the class I enjoy, I would be jumping ship to my hunter (and have purposefully played like a slave to the game to also progress with my hunter incase nothing changes with the DH).
I hope some of the devs have played Havoc and are looking at what can be done to make the class feel a bit better, especially in comparison to what other classes are able to do.