For m+ it is great due to its mobility, for raids its still way too squishy, I think they would noz go with veng as off tank if havoc was not a joke.
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I just gave up on my dh and leveling this uh dk. Every dung top dps <3
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Gl on ur journey brother ! I am stayin true to DH 
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Chaos Strike dmg is still bugged by the looks of it. And our defensives were hit way too hard.
Removing dodge from Blade Dance was a mistake, we basically no longer have any 100% defensive in our kit. Iāve been blasted to death in ~4s by rogues/paladins while standing inside improved Darknessā¦
Iād love if Blade Dance was more like a defensive riposte/reflect type ability, but with longer cd.
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Damage rotation spells and defence/utility never go well together. It is always on the extreme ends of the spectrum.
Blade dance dodge needs to be its own ability and bladedance should make the next 3 Chaos strike cleave when it hits 3 or more targets with multi refund while we are at it. Would be fun.
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Just wanted a add a gentle daily reminder that dh still needs work I seriously hope your not going to pat yourself on the back, job well done, with the 5% buff.
At the moment there is no real reason to choose havoc dh over other classes for m+ or raids.I think the only spec/class combo that you would pick a dh over is survival hunter.
Unfortunately you can have a good ilvl and decent pack damage but the image of havoc is so poor many people donāt want to take a risk. Hope you revisit the class soon
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Oops bump 
Blizz where u at ?
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Iām doing more than fine in my runs. I have no idea where this idea came from.
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What keys ? It came from experience. Also this week with tyranical you do not have to kite mobs that much, but last week you had to.
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No, I mean being squishy in raids. Iām doing fine in my heroic prog.
Edit: Looking at my last Sire Denath normal logs, thereās a 350k healing done & damage taken difference between me and our warrior, but Iām in my M+ DPS build doing 300k more damage than he is.
Iām fairly certain with the proper legendaries, ability usage and talents Iād be far less squishy than he.
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Warrior is one of the weakest tanks as well atm sadly ā¦ But the difference between monk/druid and vdh is pretty big imo.
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And these things should supplement your character, not complete him. 
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Oh, you know what. That makes sense then.
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Bump bump gangā¦ DH needs a lot of work or maybe just add another specā¦
When can we expect legion classic to launch? Iād like to enjoy my DH again.
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About 8 years 
I think Blizzard will throw us a bone. It feels like DH is in such a bad Spot and nothing got changed for mythic race because they have a ābiggerā Update for DH coming.
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I wouldnāt hold out hope. They never redesign during raid tiers and honestly even 9.1 seems far fetched. I think weāre stuck the way we are this expac. Maybe they give us a bit more dmg ( 10% seems a fever dream )
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I meant like balancing talents better and buffing our damage so we are not embarrassed by tanks.
Maybe buffing some legendary->looking at you fel bombardment.
Maybe just maybe one or two talents baseline and new ones at those places. One can hope the devs are kind to us.
I have this dream about endless immolation aura with fel bombardment as a new fun build.
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I can see them buffing/nerfing classes after mythic raid becomes crossrealm.
Iām sure there will be some tuning still happening. If you are looking at the raid tiers all you see is UNdks and MM hunters. How much tuning that will be left to see ā¦ all we can hope is that they fix us at least to midtier. Honest though id just want to feel useful as havoc. Now i feel like im a bother in raids and in m+ with my guildies. My guild is mostly playing uhdk boomkins warriors mages huntersā¦ theres 2 DH 1 is the main tank and the second is meā¦ and i keep my dps charts closed during raids and m+ because i know it wont be a pretty sight.
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