I am aware, but given the fact that the Dark ranger lady (why can’t I remember her name 
) told us that they have a choice to go back to the alliance, and the customizations was given, is clearly meant that they are indeed accepted.
True that it would be better to show it more in-game but maybe they are planning to in the future.
Time to go in the same circle again…
Until we see it, blatantly, outside of one line of gossip with debatable interpretation and an in-game mechanic that doesn’t mean anything for the lore…
Dark Rangers should not be wandering around Stormwind City.
We can guess until our brains fall out of our ears but at the end of the day, those guesses aren’t the lore and should not be treated as fact.
By that logic, the general verdict of the collective that darkfallen shouldn’t be allowed in Stormwind should also not be treated as fact. We’ve got us a Schrodinger’s Undead situation here.
“Darkfallen are not allowed in Stormwind” has been the lore for 20 years, so no, not really.
Since when does the collective dictate the lore?
The customization option hasn’t been here earlier so the argument on lore up to this point is not valid as a reason to assume they are forbidden in the cities today.
One could argue that the playable characters and skins we have is what we have to go with and be able to rp with. If Alliance can have playable Darkfallen skins, they should be allowed in the cities since the playable character is a member of the faction, history is not now and things change. They would however probably not be a welcomed sight by the citizens and some would probably try start a fight or chase them out regardless if they’re allowed in the cities by law or not.
Then again, they might have added the skins purely for visual gameplay with no intention to put more story around it, but it seems odd.
The sand Troll skin on Horde is a similar situation.
Blizzard made them playable as a member of the Alliance.
That is just about as far as it goes. Whether an individual’s character agrees with it is a different matter entirely, but a matter of fact is that they’re allowed to go around Stormwind, and the local guard isnt beating them down.
They don’t beat down murderers, thieves and anyone else either.
On an OOC level, they’re allowed to go around SW, but that’s not the argument at all.
i like the funny red eye elfses
They sure do, they simply dont respond to make pretend RP.
What they do respond to however, is the game world and its characters designed by its rules.
Blizzard made it officially playable as a member of the Alliance, that is about as canon as it gets.
That doesnt equal every Darkfallen being Alliance, but it sure shows that some of them are accepted back in among the fold, otherwise they wouldnt be playable.
People are taking gameplay as a lore fact, but by that logic there’s only 50 people or so living in Stormwind.
Or there’s like half a dozen warchiefs active in Orgrimmar depending on which quest you are.
Velonara.
It doesn’t. It’s an indication that they will be, but it hasn’t happened yet. Blizzard emphasizes the difference between lore and gameplay mechanics all the time, people often forget it. Take for example the mage tower portal to Oribos. Steve Danuser has clearly stated it’s a game mechanic and it’s not actually there lorewise, that it would be more difficult to get into the Shadowlands than just popping through a portal. And funny thing is, that portal has more lore to it than the idea of Alliance aligned dark rangers since there’s an actual questline about opening it. 
Death Knights and Demon Hunters were also made playable for the two factions before you actually finished the questline that leads to the two of them being accepted into the Alliance, respectively Horde.
I think a big issue here lies with a part of the playerbase looking to game mechanics as lore while another part doesn’t. But imho all the indications we have from Blizz (Metzen talking about warlock pets in SW, Danuser about portals) shows that game mechanics cannot be taken seriously. They added the dark ranger customization to Alliance elves because a) Kaldorei dark rangers exist; b) they didn’t want a player backlash from the Alliance side and c) they’ll probably build up the lore leading to their acceptance into the Alliance in the foreseable future. That lore is lacking as of yet, we are in the stage of DR’s seeking acceptance and my opinion is that will only happen in Dragonflights through some marginal questline once Tyrande gets back from the Shadowlands.
Until then and as of yet the Alliance has no reason to see dark rangers as anything else but Horde, which means they wouldn’t be allowed into their lands, or rogue undead, which might be a bit worse.
I honestly can not believe people are still going on about this, but let me just say it once more;
game play =/= lore.
Otherwise, my hunter could call all the critters in the near vicinity and have them stampede over you. She could also fire one arrow in the air and make it rain arrows down on you from no where. My Druid can resurrect the dead…
No it doesn’t, please show me the lore (because I would love to be able to RP my dark ranger) where someone approached Turalyon, and spoke on behalf of the Dark Rangers? I will wait.
Intention does not mean action, the Dark Rangers are free to ask, is what is being said, not that they are. I can have a conversation with you about slapping Valdarth in the face, you can be all for it, but that doesn’t mean Valdarth will be okay with it and let it happen… See the difference?
Yes! If only more RPers realised this, even if there was lore to say they are now alliance members, do people really think the best introduction is Day one, walk into Stormwind and try to enter the Cathedral I mean…?
For the last time gameplay =/= lore. There is, as of now, no lore for that.
Please people read up.
All arguments about lore aside (I’m not fond of either btw) but even if you are somehow this Alliance-affiliated helf Dark Ranger, just as with Death Knights, Illidari, etc, you probably shouldn’t be spending ur time downing cocktails in Old Town
Oi!
See ? This is why I always wear a helmet. People call me tin can, but at the end of the day, my face is quite secure, thank you.
People in this thread have different opinions and we all have things we don’t agree with. I personally get annoyed by all the half elves that’s supposed to be super rare and not well liked, but at the end of the day people play and rp to have fun, and no one’s in their right to tell someone they can’t rp something especially when there’s no clear lore on it, just let people have their fun.
Kaldorei* drop the ’ 
Also can’t someone just throw a tweet at one of the Warcrafts devs? Its how we get most of the lore anyways, through tweets.
You mean Malfurion would be leading. He is the faction leader along with Tyrande. Maiev is only a general at best.
He is also discarded abandonware that has been MIA since the darkshore warfront
Anyway re: darkfallen, status quo is god. Until we get actual lore saying they’re accepted, there’s no reason to believe they are.
Thank you.
So Velonara said that the Kaldorei dark Rangers some decided to stay in Undercity. And some decided to go back to the alliance. They have that choice if they want to.
Now tell me why on earth would a Kaldorei dark ranger go back to the alliance and not be accepted, based on Velonara’s words?
Does everything have to be specific? Do you NEED to watch them physically accepted in-game?
Seems weird. As I said, the lore is there but I guess it’s not too “specific” to count.
In any case I hope Blizzard does something specific so Dark Ranger Roleplayers don’t get bullied.