Just let me have my fun!
I want to sit in bars on my Darkfallen and live her lost youth!
Undead in general should be unpopular.
Dark Fallen have had no introduction or note of “they’re fine, tolerate them” so realistically are going to be lower than others.
The exact dialogue is however written as follows:
There are those among the kaldorei raised by Sylvanas' val'kyr who wish to return to their own. If Tyrande would have them back, they are free to go. The rest will be welcome in the ranks of the dark rangers.
This does not indicate that the Alliance or Tyrande will accept their return, it just states that those Kaldorei who were risen are free to leave if they choose to.
And doesn’t account for the Thalassian Dark Fallen either.
Yes, we do, people -wanting- to rejoin the Alliance and people being -allowed- back in to the Alliance are two entirely different things. That is the point of contention here.
Furthermore, I don’t think Dark Rangers can’t be in Alliance Capitals. They’re free to come here if they so wish, but they will likely be killed on sight or harassed or removed. If that is the type of roleplay they are eager to partake in then I am all for it because at the end of the day we are all allowed to do what we want with our subscriptions and what I want to do with mine right now is to maim undead characters as they casually walk the streets of my beloved city without written permission from the Alliance leaders.
I think the main point most people are missing here as they bring up the Ebon Blade and the Illidari and the Void Elves is that they were all brought in due to necessity in times of need.
There is currently no ongoing war, sure there would’ve been some Scourge to take care of around Azeroth but from the looks of things it hasn’t gotten out of hand. Shadowlands has been one massive spiritual afterlife dimension proxy war. We have no need for the Dark Rangers, why would we let them back in now?
It’s just gotten dumb beyond that to even imagine it, in a storyline with so much hatred and vengeance everyone still seems to think it’s Love and Compassioncraft and not Warcraft.
Alright you have a point.
I guess Dark Rangers need to stay away from Stormwind until 2024 or 2023 if we get lucky 
Yeah this makes no sense. If I recall correctly both Alleria (void elf) and Sylvanas (undead elf) were insulting on each other on their race. (Referencing the comic Windrunner: Three sisters)
Now we have Dark ranger void elves soooo yeah
Dark Fallen nelf druids are now also a thing based on class customisation. How does that work?
Again Velonara saying anything will make no difference at all, because its the leaders of the Alliance decision.
Again, I am free to walk up and slap Valdarth if I want to, that doesn’t mean Valdarth will accept it. And yes we do need the lore, otherwise what’s to stop me from making a Titan and just Rping that in the middle of SW?
Why do so many people RP in WoW but totally disregard the lore, its like the amount of hippy night elves that are about, it really is one of my total bug bears in WoW. Why are people RPing if they don’t like the lore? Find a game you do like the lore in and RP there.
Also… These classes/races (velf, DK, DH, DR) are marginallised, you aren’t meant to like them off the bat. Imagine IRL a corpse comes walking towards you, is your first instinct to make friends with it?
It’s called the Cenarion Circle!
I do see your point. Anyway as I’ve said, Dark ranger role players will need to stay away from Stormwind until 2023 or 2024 if they are lucky.
I feel bad for them. Cause we all know how long these things take.
I mean is there any other way to RP my edgy DK/DH/DR/VE???
Darkfallen*
You’re still getting undeath and undead wrong.
Don’t come for me on this forum right now hun. I will slice you 
I mean maybe the other races, but the Kaldorei themselves are meant to be fierce protectors of nature, check out their concept art. They are anything but hippy, happy tree people.
I would question why any one would want to play a DR in SW anyway, you are a marginalised group, you are disliked and untrusted, even the DK’s still are and they have been in the Alliance for years now (or should be but SW RP smh) Even as it stands there is some great RP you can do, outside of Cringewind as a Dark Ranger, which makes lore sense. As someone above said, they have been RPing a DR for a long time now and rather than hanging around in cities, they stay on the fringes of society, which makes total sense right now. Yes the RP is in shorter supply, but I would hazard its quality rather than the Lolrp that is SW.
Concept art is not the people we have been constantly presented with in game with quests though.
They’ve often been shown to be hippies.
Well english is tough language to get right!
Velonara’s word is that some of them are considering going back to the Alliance, not that they have done so nor that the Alliance has yet accepted them. It’s quite simple, really. The issue at hand is that she’s referring to an intention which, as I’ve said a thousand times before along with so many other people posting here, is different from action.
It’s not. The game mechanics are there and a small gateway for further lore to be implemented. Blizzard is hinting at the possibility of Kaldorei dark rangers rejoining their faction, but that hasn’t happened yet. DK’s did so through a questline that got them pardoned and accepted by Varian. DR’s didn’t. And until that questline happens all that we have in terms of lore is the status quo.
IC or OOC you mean ? Because even once Blizzard does that, it stands to nature they’ll be given a rather unpleasant treatment. Especially from the Night Elves on which they’ve turned their back once and which they’ve killed without much convincing effort from Sylvanas.
My point precisely. All that Velonara says is that they are free to leave. Velonara doesn’t speak for the Alliance. There is no quest or piece of lore indicating any update on the Alliance’s own position in regards to dark rangers and that would be quite impossible given the person most likely to receive them back is still in the Shadowlands.
From my point of view, until dark rangers get an approval from Tyrande or some Alliance figurehead, either individually or collectively, to be on Alliance ground, any dark ranger would stay out of those areas knowing they’d be most likely killed, so once again, having DR roleplayers in Stormwind at this stage of the game makes no sense at all.
And for people who argue that the war is over and Alliance/Horde can walk into each other’s lands, that’s false as proven with Exploring Azeroth where Shaw has pretty much something akin to a diplomatic passport from Baine in order to pass through Horde lands and Rexxar from Velen. So borders are definitely not open between factions and without anything to support the idea of DR officially joining the Alliance they’d be treated as Horde and a) banished b) killed. Of course, they can RP having papers. But that would involve roleplaying on behalf of NPC’s like Turalyon which is meh.
Yes. Your point ? Sarcasm isn’t exactly disproving any argument here. 
It’s Blizzard’s fault for doing something only for the sake of customer pleasure and disregarding the need to implement it in lore for the sake of the RP community.
The point is:
Don’t forget DK pets. Nobody likes those undead either.
Although I miss when ghouls had vendor speech lines when clicked on.
I’m not disproving any argument. I agreed in the end.
I simply said I feel bad for those who will wait in order to RP in alliance areas. I’m not planning on roleplaying a Dark ranger night elf, as I already have a blood elf one on the Horde side.
Okay, check out their lore. They aren’t hippies, no where is it written they are tree huggers, but their lore does suggest they are fierce protectors of nature. Thing is Kaldorei lore has been… terrible since before BfA, its been down hill and down hill, with the real night elves only been shown in books, or cut scenes (malf one)
Indeed. It’s not impossible, but it’s a huge thing and should be given some relevance in the narrative. The problem for me isn’t the feasibility but the lack of explanation. Imagine that suddenly, half of Stormwind begins using black drakes as mounts instead of gryphons.
Ideally you want to see a cause behind that.
Instead we, the fans, are left in to fill the gaps in the story via speculation. If you are introducing undeads in the Alliance, this is a huge moment: a quest or two wouldn’t hurt.
Malf between Cata and before BfA was a huge hippy.
Many of them are hippies.
Is that all they are? No.
Is it part of who they are which we’ve been shown many times over the course of WoW? Yes.