Imagine getting upset about something like this. Blizzard broke the lore so often, might as well go all out with the next update and embrace the stupidity. Where my blue & yellow striped non-binary orks at?
Blood Elves are red they are Bloods…
I never really liked even the brown skinned versions of the human model in early WoW. From Warcraft 2 and 3 it is clear that humans are not brown. As for the elves it is even more ridiculous. Having brown skin is more “earthly”/animal like, what is the opposite of the elven aesthetic.
- WoW would be better without Kung-Fu Pandas, Furries and Fat Humans.
- Worgens, Taurens etc. should be like before. Less like a human and more like a Beast. No furries!
- Blood Elves and even Forsaken as part of the Horde was a mistake.
- Orcish Hordes as peace loving tribal exiles was a mistake. (At least in War3 we had Grom)
- Brown orcs (especially as a retcon of orc origin) are lame. Orcs are green.
Probably there is more, but they are keep coming year-by-year…
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https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people
https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race
https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Europe
I’ll save people having to comment “But the first article states white people is a racial classification specifier, used mostly and often exclusively for people of European descent so that means European is a race, right?” and pre-emptively point out that the term European encompasses more than those of only European descent.
Finally dark elves enter the fray, and as horde too <3
This couldn’t be better.
Although I kinda wish they added more variations!
Now all that is left is to go the complete opposite side and give us San’lynish skin tones for this to be perfect.
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You got that right.
There doesn’t need to be an explanation of this.
Dark elves are a thing, they’re popular and it could easily be explained that these are just dark elves that lived secluded but joined the fray later on, kinda like wild hammer dwarves, zandalari… there is after all a huge portion of undiscovered lands out there.
I don’t get what’s so touchy about adding a well known fantasy race skin color, dark elves.
I also don’t get what’s wrong about adding any kind of customization.
Small headed, big headed, pink, brown, black, magenta, red, yellow , purple, ashen, white, green.
Customization is a huge part of RPGs and it’s what WoW has been lacking for a huge long time.
There’s a clear definite line between appeasing the " SJW " and trying to force ethnicity variation and all the other stuff to look " woke " and in turn killing the fantasy of what ever has had these enforced on ( which bred the term go woke go broke )
And between just naturally adding more satisfying fun options for the sake of it.
This one’s the latter.
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i suppose some like it, but it’s not for me.
Ngl, This makes absolutely no sense to me.
How should i put it… Demonic red is more natural for bElfs than dark brown, ok? If we would have dark brown, why not fel-green?
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The real question should always be, why not all of them?
Blizzard should just give us one of those circle that contains all colors and some of them sliders to adjust stuff and let people use whatever color they want for skin, eyes or hair.
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for sure as its fantasy after all, but some need to be spoon fed lore just to accept it… with rather high standards
Lore seems to be the main reason that people are upset about it which is understandable but it can be perceived as racist to others.
Freckles, rosy cheeks, scars, birthmarks the more the better!
For sure 100% but not to mention it affects player creation fantasy as well.
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My new theory on this thread is that Shadowlands is just so damn PERFECT 
that people needed something to be mad over, so they latched on to this.
(And also a few people are just more racist than they think)
This is 100% fact like all of my opinions don’t argue or i’ll call the police
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Funny, I didn’t know if you complain in a fanatsy game about charcter outlooks that don’t fit the lore, you suddenly became racist. Still I hope these customisations will not effect npcs.
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point me to where I called anyone racist.
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you still haven’t provided any evidence to suggest this isn’t simple customisation extension as opposed to “pandering”.
The entirety of your position rests on assumptions about what other people are thinking based upon nothing but your own opinion. I just think it’s really odd that as soon as stuff like this goes into a game, a raft of people default to the idea it MUST be about pandering, they can’t comprehend otherwise. Because the idea of including diverse skin tones without a raft of justifications just for the sake of it is foreign to them.
I mean dwarves evolved from rock men. Brown, grey and blackish rock men. If anything their skin should be darker, yet nobody asked why dwarves aren’t naturally black, because you don’t “need” to justify peachy skin tones apparently, they’re just “normal”. I just think this kind of pick and mix over caring about lore and skin tones is very disingenuous.
Note, I still haven’t called anyone racist.
It’s like with the little mermaid remake. Nobody bar little girls gave a toss about the literature integrity of the work at all. A black Arial gets cast and suddenly tons of 20 something guys jump out of the woodwork and give a toss about consistency of the work, because for them it couldn’t be that Disney simply want to make a Disney Princess whom resonates with black girls, oh no, there’s some agenda that’s an attack on them. It’s absolutely absurd.
It’s pretty clear Blizzard wanted to introduce ethnic diversity in the game and see Blood Elves as the “human-like race” Horde side, which then needs diversification the same Alliance Humans do.
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But I do like Tauren Sunwalkers. It makes sense somehow in the lore and they actually had a short introduction text to it.
They don’t like being called dark, they like being called African-American Elves.
What is that (in)famous saying from a horrible woman?
That everything is sexist, racist and homophobic. Absolutely everything. Especially criticism.
I want to point this part out though: “resonates with black girls”.
That sounds kind of racist, doesn’t it? To imply that there needs (Or should be) to be a black princess because black girls aren’t resonating with the other princesses, not because they aren’t characters they could relate to or are believable, but because they don’t have the same pigmentation.
Oh, by the way, wasn’t there a black princess in Princess and the Frog, or whichever movie it was?
I don’t really give a crap about The Little Mermaid or any of Disney’s recent works, but let me frame it like this in Warcraft terms: Imagine Thrall being seen as a green orc for the majority of Warcraft’s lifeline, and then suddenly… He’s being portrayed as red, without any explanation to it, and is retroactively made red throughout the different variants of himself. I imagine it wouldn’t resonate well.
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One black princess versus over 30 white ones. “It’s okay, you have one!” Is a cop out. Like telling someone they should be happy to have a cupcake at all when everyone else has a Victoria sponge.
And having a character represent them physically is hardly racist. I could easily turn that around. Why is it too much to ask white girls to resonate with a black princess instead? Why does one group have to cede to the other and not vice versa?
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We wuz high elves n shiet
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And Little Mermaid isn’t? “It’s okay, you have two black princesses now against 29 ones because we sacrificed a redhead for your black princess”
Maybe on the surface no. But the reasoning behind it and/or the way you go about it? That certainly can be racist. Could be seen as racist to white people to retcon a character out of their skin color because “Reasons”. Could be racist to black people to say that they are only able to resonate with their skin color.
I’d love to see you try.
Because they probably don’t care too much, and no one is going around on their behalf screaming “We need white princesses to resonate with white girls!”, because saying that would come off as wacist (But it’s okay when blacks do it, oh yes).
So I am going to ask you again: Why are you making what sounds like a racist impression, that black girls need a black princess to resonate with? When you’re probably not even black yourself.
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