Darker Elf Skins Diversity Box-Tick ✅

Let’s also remember that I was called an Afrocentrist for my dad comes from the wrong (non-white) part of Africa. Made my day. I see Algeria deleted the posts already. Good for him. Because I’d have flagged it otherwise.

They were not elves, they were somewhat similar to elves, but no elves whatsover.

They may, but how many people use any skin tone but the proper one is an interesting question. I’ve never seen anything but white belves.

And you know that how? Coincidence has it that I know for a fact that they are elves, because I grew up with rich knowledge about African mythology, so please don’t even try, thanks.

The really interesting question is: why would you be so bothered by the skin option if you don’t see it played anyways? You’d be literally raging over the sheer thought of potentially seeing a dark elf char at one point in future. How hysterical is that?

However, I have two dark skinned belf chars alone. The whole amount might differ from region to region and therefore realm to realm. But I’ve seen a couple up to know already. It’s not like a contest about who is more popular or which word did you use earlier? “desirable”? Even though you’d like to make it a contest the whole time. Toxic competitive behaviour. I think there were a bunch of threads about it and how it ruins the game community in the past…

They may be, Yumboes are white after all…

Because it was forced as a political/PC statement. There’s no lore behind it. No logical explanation. Belves got somewhat European features - blackfacing them doesn’t make them look good. It makes them look burnt.

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And the Emere aren’t, so what’s your point? Go to European mythology and it will gift you with the same dilemma. Dökkalfar / Dark Elves / Svartalfar / Schwarzelfen as namely dark skinned elves, Ljosalfar / Lichtelfen / Light Elves with fair skin, and a bunch of Forest Elf tribes with no explicit skin definition whatsoever. There never were and never will be only fair skinned elves, no matter how you try and make up a theory ignoring all the dark skinned elven tribes.

First and foremost: Saying black faces make belfs look burnt is racist.

Second: It’s not true. If I put in some effort, I can customize a female blood elf looking like a popular Jamaican, Senegalese or Somalian super model. There are several face options for blood elves that work very well with dark skin for they have lucious lips and a bit broader nose. And they’ve been there for quite a while. You not picking or recognising them is no one else’s problem but yours.

Third: Blood Elf architecture has a lot of oriental features. Silvermoon’s roofs looking like onion towers have their origins in Osman architecture. And while those of Moskows’s Kremel are the most famous, they are by no means exclusive to European architecture. Same goes for other architecural features in Silvermoon like curlicue ornaments or columns. One of the most popular Blood Elf hairstyles is native to the Chinese Kaiser dynasties. I can’t exactly see your eUrOpEaN design concept.

I already wrote it further up the thread: By politicising skin colours, calling their existence a PC statement and demanding justification for it, you yourself make it a political issue. If you didn’t, you would just accept those skin colours for what they are. Additional customisation options. It is YOU who fixates on dark skin as a political tool, YOU who degrades the skin colour to such a thing, YOU who insults every dark skinned player happy about being finally included in a char design concept and ruining their positive game experience. YOU are the one who is abusing dark skin to demonstrate your politically / racially motivated ideas about “pure and white European elves and how they should look like”.

Yet you fail to realise how your ideas apparently aren’t matching Blizzard’s ideas. For it is their game, not yours, and as they (partially in a negative way) made us all recognise in the past, they can change their own game however df they like without needing your approval. The only realistic option you have is unsubbing if you don’t like it. Some might even encourage you to do so.

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How is tanned elves a political statement? It feels like I’m missing something. The lore is a sodding mess anyway; I don’t see how this is any worse than, you know… everything else in the game right now.

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We already had dark skined races in the game: trolls, orcs, taurens, later vulpera. Why all has to be inclusive? It makes it less valued.

You want a brown/black only race? Fine, suggest a race from african mythology to the designers team.

Ottomans were white too… Like Algerians…

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It makes it less valued for you because you see dark skin as a devaluation. Something only racists and white supremacists do, so please speak for yourself.

I never said I wanted a black only race. I like the mixed skin colour Blood Elves just as they are. It makes the tribe more original in terms of development because Blizzard stops relying on already existing elf concepts and dares to be unconventional, modern and progressive.

Ah, there we are again. The (mis)conception of white skin colour. Not even going to respond to that again. Just saying this: You claimed Blood Elf features and culture to be European and I proved you wrong. Now all you have left is going back to your skin colour argument that wouldn’t even be supported by most fair skinned Northern and Middle Europeans, who already don’t see Southern Europeans as white anymore.

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Do I? Oh, thank you for telling me what I feel and how I think.

As you clearly don’t understand what I am saying I think I’ll end here as got better things to do :slight_smile:

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Are you that dumb?

Less valued was about making everything inclusive. Everything. Not skin colour. I’d be as equally annoyed if a dark elf race suddenly got white option. As now with void elves getting non-void features. Soon we will all look the same so everyone can be included :confused:

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Elves can be white, pink, purple, blue, grey and so on. Blizzard adds a brown option
“I DEMAND A LOGICAL EXPLANATION FOR THIS!”

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Their nation is constantly sunny.
They have been there for thousands of years.
Some are brown as a result.
And done.

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…You must be some kinda genious!

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Could ask you the same. But judging your skills in associative thinking, I might as well answer this question myself…

You tell me a fictional race / game gets less valued due to inclusion. Which is your opinion and yours alone. Yet you come up with “Oh, thank you for telling me what to think and how to feel” while it is YOU all the time, telling people playing dark skinned Blood Elves how they should feel and think about their character. That they are unnatural, less valuable, wrong, not fitting in. You make your subjective opinion rule for all players while I only counter argument with facts. Learn to look and think out of your tiny little box. And also, check your attitude. Your opinion doesn’t apply to all of us, so stop trying to fabricate some bs theory about how elves are supposed to look like just because your little snowflake personality can’t deal with reality that is, dark skinned blood elves exist, they are in the game and there to stay. And you.won’t.change.it! And now please stop getting on my nerves with your childish point of view. I have the feeling I’m talking to a 12 y/o

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The fact that someone’s views aren’t like yours make you angry like a little child, I see. Maybe you should think outside that tiny little box of yours.

See, I can write things like that too.

It changes nothing. Making belfs brown/black wasn’t done for any other reasons than the PC, inLusIviTy, etc. All them silly things that poison modern world. It wasn’t done in a well designed way, just recolouring. With no explanaition. Someone mentioned that other skin colours needed none - but they were. Various skin tones of various elf tribes have been explained. It all makes sense. This however, doesn’t. It’s just PC.

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I’d like an explanation for it in the lore but not to justify it and not just for dark skin, but for everything because that level of detail in the lore is hella cool and makes the game world feel so much more believable and vast.

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What about all the people that wanted to make a dark brown elf and couldn’t for all those years, because the option wasn’t there? Why does it have to be political? It’s something people want to be able to do, and it should have been there from start, simply because the white skin option was available and in the real world you cannot have white skin without also having black skin, the two are connected to each other and cannot exist separately, you should really be complaining about the fact that it’s only recently been possible to create a dark brown skinned elf, because it makes no sense for it not to be an option in the first place.

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I’m sitting here smiling, so angry barely is the right word for my mood. To be honest, I rather feel sorry for you with a tad of amusement about how each and every of your “arguments” finally got dismantled and revealed as what they are: far-right rhetoric.

You are the one turning fantasy games into a political playing field for promoting xenophobic and discriminating views. I’m so glad no one sitting in a developing position of this game is paying attention to people like you and enjoy your frustration about this fact more than you can imagine. 8)

A penny for every time someone started to regurgitate campaign slogans of far-right parties and organisations at the end of an argument, where they run out of logical proof for their claims.

Believe what you want, your opinion isn’t mine nor will it take black Blood Elves out of the game. And because I know how much you despise it:

There are dark skinned Blood Elves in World of Warcraft!

There are people, who enjoy playing dark skinned Blood Elves in World of Warcraft!

There are even RP couples consisting of a dark skinned and light skinned Blood Elf!

They will probably have inclusive mixed Blood Elf babies and name one after you!

Okay forget the last part of the last sentence. No mixed Blood Elf baby deserves such punishment…

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