Dear Night Elf players

I personally love that my favorite race (high elves) hasn´t been getting any attention for years. Because I know that if that ever happens, it will be something about reconcilliation with blood elves and how we need to forgive and how peace and love are the best.

It´s not malice, devs seem to genuinely love night elves.
It´s just that there´s no hate like California millenial love.

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I mean Saurfang’s story being told via the cinematics was a mess of contradictions and flip-flopping even if you ignore the Horde/Orc stuff. Like, his self-contained BfA story, on its own, as a character, was a mess, even without the greater context of the factions and narrative.

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I read from somewhere that Chris Metzen had to actually fight to get Night Elves into the game and the devs didn’t get them at all, which would explain a lot of things lmao

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I think they do, and I think they are trying to appease night elf players in particular in some ways, it’s just the problem being that, yeah, they’re not splendid writers. As you say.

But enough times of seeing the night elf story compared to IRL atrocities, and not being horrified by that story as an act of similar IRL cruelty on the people behind the screen… IDK, I guess it does sort of dilute my sympathies.

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This is the main thing, yeah.

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Equally in that regard it was very weird to see people sort of gleefully enjoy the story a bit too personally for my tastes on the Orcposters regard.

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I suspect the arguments made on Twitter and those made here are being melded. Some of what people think we’re saying isn’t actually what’s being said. I appreciate your comment though, and it’s true a lot of races are being left without any attention. Which isn’t good either!

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It´s also that what they want is completely different from what night elf fans want. Blizzard, with its focus on stories where everyone hugs each other and forgives, wants to focus on exactly that. Because of this, they portray wanting justice (which they call revenge, because I guess wanting execution of the person that caused genocide of your people is wrong) as some moral evil, with forgiveness and “renewal” as the good choice.

A person that thinks like this will never, in a million years, provide satisfying narrative for people who don´t share the same views. The problem isn´t that night elves aren´t epicly destroying Horde towns left and right every patch (although I´m sure some Twitterposters would want exactly that), it´s that they aren´t even trying and instead hug each other and talk about their feelings.

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As the kids would say (aka everyone besides Lintian), it is indeed a bit on the cringe side – even if and arguably because it’s low effort trolling. Very much an L take.

P.S. Hyped for this multi-paragraph Acrona post.

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Genuine brain rot behaviour

I feel Dwarves are really neglected a lot, even though Ironforge is far more a better capital city for the Alliance’s military than Stormwind ever would be.

It has far better industry compared to Stormwind, since SW’s Industry mostly comes from Dwarves anyhow.
It is in a huge bunker beneath the mountains, even if they can’t defend the narrow path that goes towards the gate, or mountain passses, they can still just close it off.
Has a huge library and documentations on the world’s history.
Has an airstrip.
Inventing guns, machinery, wonders for the new world.
Dwarves live longer thus able to hone skills for longer.

Yet it’s these scrawny dumb smelly humans that somehow lead the Alliance.

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Though when Teldrassil burned I was busy roleplaying my orc, I likewise thought that the tree burning was a cool thing to generate a lot of roleplay as a major event. Agree on Ysera too, she had a very evocative ending in Legion and I think it could’ve stayed that way

In general though, I try to cherry pick on the parts of nelf lore that do still appeal to me and focus on those, there’s an abundance of lore nuggets still to get inspired by :clap:

I wonder what the devs intend to do with Elune eventually, a part of me hopes she’d be left a mystery - but based on the scene with the Winter Queen I suspect they’ll try explain her as a relatable character at some point.

It reminds me a bit of how much we see the Dragon Aspects in their elven forms in the Dragonflight cutscenes, even if it’s dragon x dragon interaction (Ysera and Merithra reuniting, Alex & Nozdormu duo scene, Alex talking with Vyranoth etc.) I get why they do that from animation point of view, to help the characters feel more relatable through human expression and body language. I like the cutscenes visually, but they create sometimes a bit of a disconnect that these are mighty dragons given how often they choose their visage form over their original form in all these situations.

It’s not hard to imagine Elune with an ethereal elven form really, but there’s a risk of stripping her from the sense of mysticism and divine through making her feel too human (elf).

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Wow, this thread sure devolved into some posters circle-jerking in the same vein as those terrible Space Marine LARPers on bird-app… (Brother! Brother! BRUTHA! Muh Heresy!! :nauseated_face: )

I’m pretty sure there was a lot of complaints about how Orcs got handled in WoD (‘All Orcs default to violence, ackshually’) and when BFA could neither decide what Honour was, nor shut up about it.
And, y’know, those were all perfectly valid complaints? Because it was badly written and handled?

Don’t get why people are content to meh-meh-meh, when really we’re all in the same boat of wishing there was some writer consistency, and not having to fear the spotlight because its a very weighted coin-toss on whether it’s a bad thing or not.

Edit: Also, sorry (not sorry) but I was HERE when everyone was non-stop dunking on the writing/handling of Baine and the Tauren. And that was justified! These two things are not mutually exclusive!

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It’s the best way to approach roleplay and the setting’s lore in my view, yeah. The setting is broad enough to ignore the things that we don’t like, but superficial enough that there’s plenty of wiggle room for us to reasonably craft our own addendums for the sake of creativity.

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There is no ’ in Kaldorei.
:dagger:

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Nelflanders.

Edit: Nelflings.

Or Gelbin becoming the actual King of (mecha)Gnomes. :nauseated_face:

He loves democracy.

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For Americans, Blizz really do have a thing for Kings/Queens. Kinda weird :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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That is just Americans in a nutshell.

They pine for a monarchy.

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