No need to be snippy, I did the main campaign up to Tanaan Jungle, where it became a time gated grindfest and I threw in the towel for that expac.
It still didn’t explain 1) how Garrosh even got to Draenor in the first place, 2) a bunch of other kind of key background events.
“The short story was free, you-” I don’t care? The point is, and always has been, if you’re playing an MMO, hell any game really, the narrative should be IN THE DAMN GAME. So many games can achieve this without any issues whatsoever, there’s literally no excuse? It’s why the like of Halo, while a very fun series, were bad when it came to storytelling. Because whole chunks of lore are just outright missing from the game itself.
Why do people make excuses for this sort of thing? I don’t get it.
I won’t lie, that short story Telaryn talks about is pretty great and is one of the things that I loved about WoD.
Shame they never really elaborated upon that (ie. with all the “he was lying to you”) and dropped the ball on it. Draenor is free. Enjoy it. The in-game campaign doesn’t really give WoD a proper arc. It had a good beginning, no middle, and a rushed ending.
But as for the Iron Horde, they went full villains with them. Loras mentioned the Blackrock and the Warsong, but we also see the Bleeding Hollow and the Shattered Hand to be quite “raaargh violence! Murder! Hehahahaheh!” which yeah, doesn’t strike me as this totally non-brutal, metal-evil culture.
Okay wow, you’re really sinking so low as to insult a genocided people who have suffered nothing but punch after punch by Blizzard since they were introduced in WC3? All Blizzard ever does it spit on night elf players, killing our immortality, world trees, lore and people all for the benefit of privileged Human Male Paladins like you. I’m so sick of you HMP’s mocking the night elves every time something bad happens to us and quite frankly it’s unacceptable. And yes, us not getting a brewfest stall is a punch to the face. Apparently there are so few of us left that we have to outsource our products to a ‘crack squad’ of void elves, the antithesis of all that is night elf second only to HMP’s. This is why subscribers are tanking and people are flocking to Classic, because of how Blizzard treats the night elves like garbage, especially post cata. It’s not funny, so take your human male paladin privilege and human potential elsewhere. Going through the indignity of following an 18 year old human boy is bad enough as it is without scrubs like you rubbing it in.
I mean, Desdel Stareye, the dude who was commander between Kur’talos and Jarod was constantly snorting powder in addition to being incompetent. If your army is lead by a drug-addict just because he happens to be second-in-rank then that’s a big oof.
Like how, by Blizzard’s own admission, they didn’t include the Vindicaar because it didn’t fit the story they wanted to tell, even if logically the Alliance should still have it.
If my night elf girlfriend and Ratatouille are both drowning and I could only save one you can Catch me at my gf’s funeral with a tasty fettucine alfredo
Ready to do some dragon hunting? A bronze dragon freed Garrosh Hellscream and took him to this world. His name is Kairozdormu, and he’s a fugitive from Azeroth It’s time to track him down.
His essence permeates this entire timeline. If I could just get a hold of him - dead or alive! - I could re-calibrate my magic to this era of Draenor.
We’ll need the help of a fellow bronze dragon. I’ll find her and meet you in Nagrand. Let’s rendezvous at the crossroads north of the Ring of Trials.
This part of the main campaign covers the part where Garrosh’s arrival in Draenor is explained, and Kairoz’s role (and to an extent, motivation) in it!
What other key moments do you feel were missing in game?
I’m not. I have and always have been vocal that they need to add a codex menu to the UI for reading the in-game books that you can (but most people won’t) read. What I’m doing is explaining What Actually Happened. The medium in which it’s told is irrelevant for its validity for the purpose of a lore debate.
me zaphius
But I agree. As someone who did like WoD, it had a lot of potential but the ending fell short and disappointing. But given they cut 2 entire patches (RIP Faralohn and Gorian Empire) it was a common trend with the expansion at the time. Grom shouldn’t have been redeemed; he still needed to be held accountable for his crimes no matter how misguided they were. I would have rather seen Grom die with the tragic realisation of what he had done, since that was a prevalent theme with his Main Universe characterisation.
The important reason for it was that Garrosh presented himself as the only person capable of saving the orcish race from slavery and death, and your only choice was to rally behind him and everyone who doesn’t will be wiped out. We see Shadowmoon being forced to become necromancers or be wiped out if they don’t, and Frostwolves were already being hunted for their refusal.
When presented with the choice of either joining Grom and his Prophet’s new Horde with advanced technology the likes of which you’ve never seen before or die? I understand why the Chieftains made the choices they did. They’re terrible people and deserved to die for their crimes, but I understand the reasoning behind it.
Yeah. Kur’talos was just bad at his job because he had never actually fought a war in his life, but Desdel was just a maliciously incompetent druggie who was too high to realise the reasons why Kur’talos failed. Desdel’s death is the single greatest thing to happen to the Resistance.
Alright, fair, I don’t remember that particular part of the quests. It’s been a few years, and at the time I quickly went off the time-gating and whathaveyou they insist on putting in the Legendary/Khadgar questlines.
I find it funny (read: not) how the first thing I see when clicking that link is “This quest has been removed from the game”.
I think that kind of sums up the Devs approach to lore, consistency and longform story telling, personally…
Show me the mass killings of civilians the Lightbound did
And also the following 5 odd after they promised “no guys this time we’re really good i promise”
If it was solely attacked for being a strategic military target it would be one thing, but the Lightforged attacks were very much a matter of religious assimilation. Convert to the light or be purged. The target matters not so much as the justification, in this case.
and Ratatouille 
are both drowning 
and I could only save one 
you can Catch me at my gf’s funeral 
with a tasty fettucine alfredo 
zaphius
