Pandarian DKs, Tauren Rogues and Monks…it all makes sooooo much sense…
I’m talking about undead rocks, but sure, I’m sure there are other combos that make little to no sense as well. Doesn’t mean we should double down on the dumb however.
We can always throw them !!!
Yeah pandaren dks don’t make sense because… They don’t have soul or smth? Why? And what’s wrong with tauren monks? Imagine the kick
If we are talking about little to no sense the maghar orc were supposed to be the uncorrupted orcs yet they can now be warlocks too…
I feel like they are supposed to be the OG orcs not uncorrupted, otherwise it’s again discourse “w-whyyy they can be shadow priests thooo???”
Specs are another matter entirely. Technically, Forsaken cannot be Holy Priests either, but they can be Priests because Shadow. Likewise, (Lightforged) Draenei shouldn’t be Shadow Priests but can be Priests because Holy.
Then we have races like Tauren, Orcs or Gnomes who shouldn’t even be Priests to begin with.
Why?
We literally know that undead priests can use light it’s just various degrees of painful to them, i bet the most strong willed ones can even not feel it too much
Light and darkness never were presented as incompatible, on the contrary the very existence of dc priest and archon hero talents suggests otherwise, nevermind the simple fact that universe was born from clash of darkness and light.
Are those dudes abhorrent to the holy light? For racial religious links we have heralds of the sun for tauren and gnomes are constantly interacting with humans
We know of one that uses the Light because his devotion is so great that he can endure the excruciating pain it causes them. It’s not various degrees, it’s always agonising pain to channel the Light which is why Faol is such a phenomenon.
As for Tauren/Gnome Priests:
Heralds of the Sun didn’t actually exist but were invented to justify a second Paladin race for the Horde besides Blood Elves. Tauren, much like Orcs, are a deeply tribal and shamanistic people,where Shamans and Druids fill the role of priests.
Gnomes on the other hand do not have a belief system, they are a largely atheistic, science/logic based people. Even if some Gnomesshould in a weird twist of fate find themselves joining the Church of Light doesn’t make it a societal norm, just like with Faol being Holy.
Else you could always make the argument that some random Tauren mighthave joined the Illidari and thereforeTauren DHs shouldnow be available.
DKs at least have a wide selection of races available to them, compared to some other classes.
I would love less restriction on Paladins.
That’s a lie, entirety of scarlet crusade had undead priests and notable characters who still used light, stop integrating your headcannon into the game
Are you sure that flash and chant both have same degrees of pain to them? Smhw common sense is dead
Who. The. Hell. Cares. About. Doylist. Answers??? An’she religion did exist before heralds of the sun were introduced, it was soft retcon, it didn’t change much about tauren culture, only expanded it.
Druids and shamans are not synonyms, elements and wild gods are different things, by acknowledging that tauren are not only shamanistic but also druidic you admit that they are versatile. Tauren have a group of interlinked systems of belief, you know, like native americans, the real life ethnicity from which tauren were inspired.
I’m sorry what? How exactly being atheist will forbid a person from using light? Holy light isn’t a judeo-christianity, it’s very much real in wow, you can have an empyrically demonstrable result from worshipping light, which is very science. You are right that gnomes were highly unlikely to form something like belief in light by themselves, but they have long standing allies that can easily introduce it to them.
You are right. Tauren shouldn’t even have Druids, because those have already been a concession to faction balance.
I won’t bother going into the rest of your post, not wasting my time with trying to declutter all of that nonsense.
Yeah why admit that you are wrong, better just belittle a person by calling him dumb. Grow up, it’s pathetic
I am not wrong with my assessment, and neither did I call you stupid. I am, however, callingy ou rude for cluttering up the conversation. But to make it simple:
- The lack of a belief system does indeed stop a society from partaking in such a belief system. Just because the Light technically does not have a deity (asidefrom the Naaru) doesn’t make what I said wrong, you are just pedantic by arguing about semantics
- An’she religion exisiting does not contradict the Tauren’s spiritual leaders being Shamans instead of Priests of the Light.
- Regarding Undead Priests, again arguing over semantics. Also, tell me of those notable characters. There is one, Alonsus Faol.
Please stop using words that you don’t understand meaning of, also all your conclusions are missing arguments, you just have [Statement] _ [you are wrong] please do fill the middle.
I don’t argue about semantics, we didn’t even touched upon meaning of the words.
And that’s how exactly stops taurens from worshipping not only elements? Their religion isn’t monotheistic, it has earth, sun, and moon as objects of worship.
Play scarlet crusade mop and cata period dungeons idk i don’t remember their names, and again you don’t understand what is semantics
It literally is semantics. It does not matter if the religion has a deity or not if the race does not practice any religions in the first place. If your entire argument revolves around “lol, the Light does not have a deityso you can be atheist and still worship it”, then yes, you are literally arguing over semantics instead of the actual point of the message.
Also, your only argument pro Forsaken Priests are masochistic religious zealots that already gladly hurt themselves when they had still been alive. Good job. Also, you didn’t name a single notable character.
And lastly, Tauren are still a tribal, shamanistic race. “They might worship other things too” is not the basis for giving them several new classes. By that logic you can give Paladins to Void Elves because some might still try to worship the Light.
It seems you are the one using words you don’t understand. You are accusing me of not having arguments while in your entire rant not making a single coherent one. I do not buy into arguments made on a “but they might if they wanted to” basis. Which in case of the Forsaken doesn’t even apply unless you really enjoy pain. So now you get to pretend that you won the argument, well done.
It literally wasn’t my point…
Okay, guess you misunderstood (?) my point is pragmatism, atheism and love for science and other characteristics of gnomes won’t stop some groups of gnomes from worshipping the light because there is CLEAR EMPYRICAL EVIDENCE of worshipping actually working and having uses, like healing capabilities.
Or do you want to say that gnome who recently was healed by a human priest will say “i don’t believe that you healed me because i don’t have system of beliefs so i will die right now fricking dies” That’s silly
So “entire faction” is meh but “notable characters” are real deal? One of the riders in naxxramas uses light, IMAGINE THAT.
Holy earth mother, an’she and mu’sha are LITERALLY minor deities in their religion, of course earth mother is main god so shamanism is their main schtick (you know earth, elements) but mu’sha IS LITERALLY ELUNE and an’she if chronicles don’t lie is literally concentrated light (text in chronicles referencing small shards of light scattered around great dark beyond that brought life in emptiness of void, sounds like stars innit).
That’s my point maghar orcs should be shamans or warriors or hunters not paladins,priests or warlocks…
But there are more race/class combinations that make no sense to me
but they have very plausible explanation why they have priests… and shadowmoon clan was kind of void worshipping as part of it’s tradition long before dark portal…
WoW players when lore (they don’t read it)