Death of Matthias Shaw and Flynn Fairwind

Even the catholic pope is like: Dudes, it is the 21st century already.

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What did you win?

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Most LGBT writhers make complete clowns out of their LGBT characters, however the few gay characters we had in the past that were writhen like actual people came from the hands of straight people.

Mags Vissagio turned her characters into violent psychopats and Sina Grace just turned Iceman into Frank from Will & Grace.

Aww OP, nobody cares about your feelings. Next.

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“I’m not a homophobe. It’s just that once I found out these characters are gay I stopped liking them”

Ok bro

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You do you, but before you do can you give me a list of writhers who won awards because the only defining trait in their character was that they were straight ?

Insults? Calling your stereotypes homophobic ain’t an insult luv. Your narrow view of the world is portrayed by two simple words: alpha male. That concept is built on the most unrealistic expectations of how a man should act and what is expected of him.

The concept of alpha male that you invoked here

demonstrated how you have little to no clue on how men of any orientation behave in this world outside of your square meter of soil.

To you a man is only valued as a “real” (alpha) man when they are attracted to the opposite sex and any deviation from that picture portrayed in your imagination is deemed as surreal and offensive. Hence, your homophobic behaviour indignation at two characters who aren’t clearly distinguishable as “gay”.

Now go out in the world and meet some real people before you embarrass yourself even further.

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That is not something that happens only with sudden sexual identity changes. I used to watch anime, unexplained sudden powerups to a character used to make me dislike the character, I don’t like such things. Do you think I am afraid to declare that on a game forum, lol.

You people must stop calling everyone homophobic already. This attitude is antipathetic.

I have way more knowledge of how men of orientation act than you do, kiddo. As an LGBT guy myself I know a hell of a lot more than your virtue signalling, CIS white male trying to score internet points lookin’ trash.

I don’t like them because they killed anything interesting about them to make them a gay trope to appeal to other LGBT people. They were interesting, deep characters with lots to like. Now they can be summed up in the phrase “They are gay.”

Sit down.

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Imagine thinking homosexual men cant be alpha or masculine. The embarrassment.

They can. But they can’t when their entire personality is reduced to “I’m gay omg like me guys.”

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Calling someone homophobic when they are not is considered slander of the persons character, wich in on itself is an insult.

And speaking of

Yours are homophobe and biggot. NEXT.

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But in this case it isn’t? unless you’re full on delusional imagining things.

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Well there you go with the bullcrap since I’m gay myself. You just assumed too much to make a valid point regarding how other men behave.

Each and every man is valid in his own sexuality regardless of how he acts and how he wishes to be seen.

You invalidating two characters because they don’t fit your little mind is why people are still fighting stigma.

Your views are so outdated you cannot see past your first impression of a virtual person.

Shame in this day and age you can’t see past your bubble.

Now begone, vermin.

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It really is. Have you even read any of the material since their characters were bastardised by nobody’s favourite racist?

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Begone, guttertrash.

If you support terrible representation of what you yourself CLAIM to be, then you’re the problem. You should want to be shown like real people, not caricatures that are wholly unrecognisable and absolute garbage tropes.

You’re the problem.

Name one thing, apart from sleeping with each other, that marks them as (in your view) ‘gay’. What are these tropes you claim to dislike?

“bastardised” did you just learn this word, so you thought of using it everytime you say something? CONTEXT…

Anywho, yes i have, and no i can’t see what you’re seeing. The level of interaction between them is way less than any other characters currently in game. But even if it wasn’t, WHO CARES?

The characters were never mentioned to be straight in the first place.

Anyways i’m not going to feed your delusion as it seems like you have issues that go way deeper than 2 guys in a relationship.

They are here, they will stay, in fact more will come. Deal with it and enjoy the game for what it is, or cry more on a forum the devs forgot even exists.

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I support representation in an age well past the hour where the world acknowledged our existence.

If these characters are trash, they are trash in your uninformed opinion. They are who they are and that’s it. They resemble real cases of real people who don’t snap fingers and sing rupaul.

We’re not all wearing rainbows and tiaras and we are as valid as those who do.

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I repeat, just because you assumed that they were heterosexual, does not in any way guarantee that they have to be… and there is equally no guarantee that in Azeroth lots of characters are not Bisexual.

The fact that it hasn’t been included in a storyline in the past, is not a reason it cannot happen in the future…not to mention the fact there is a long list of Actors and TV personalities irl, who have promoted a heterosexual image, while actually being gay.

If peeps are genuinely not concerned that Anduin and Wrathion might be gay despite that not being a stated fact, then you should be equally unconcerned about discovering that Flynn and Shaw are attracted…not sure why you are convinced they are Homosexual, rather than Bi/Pansexual

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